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Re: Prez Trump Withdraws All US Troops From Syria
Reply #10 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:12pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:52pm:
What about when they meddle with our affairs?

What about it?   Just because Russia does something wrong doesn't make it right for the US to do the same wrong.

If Russia misbehaves, hit 'em with sanctions. 

There is no reason to deploy US troops to meet political goals.  Not ever.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:19pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:12pm:
What about it?   Just because Russia does something wrong doesn't make it right for the US to do the same wrong.

If Russia misbehaves, hit 'em with sanctions. 

There is no reason to deploy US troops to meet political goals.  Not ever.
Economic sanctions? A trade war? We should stop buying strategic minerals from Russia? Or stop selling them Caterpillar tractors?

What sort of sanctions do you think it would take to induce Putin to leave the Syrians alone?

Did it make any sense to you to have American troops in Western Europe just after WWII?

  
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Reply #12 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:46pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:19pm:
What sort of sanctions do you think it would take to induce Putin to leave the Syrians alone?

I already explained that Russia will not ever leave Syria.  Their Tartus Naval Base is Russia's only gateway to the Mediterranean - it's a strategic asset they will fight fiercely to keep. 

It's been reported that Russia was actively meddling in the 2016 Presidential election.  This is where sanctions should have been used.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 3:30pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:46pm:
I already explained that Russia will not ever leave Syria.  Their Tartus Naval Base is Russia's only gateway to the Mediterranean - it's a strategic asset they will fight fiercely to keep. 

Of course, and it's OK for Russia to fight for and seize "strategic assets", but forbidden for America to have any.
  
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Jeff wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 3:30pm:
Of course, and it's OK for Russia to fight for and seize "strategic assets", but forbidden for America to have any.

The US was not deployed to Syria to establish a Strategic asset - it was to intervene in a civil war.
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 24th, 2018 at 10:20am
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 4:37pm:
The US was not deployed to Syria to establish a Strategic asset - it was to intervene in a civil war.
Right, so we could maintain a base in Syria as a strategic asset.
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 24th, 2018 at 11:21am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 24th, 2018 at 10:20am:
Right, so we could maintain a base in Syria as a strategic asset.

^ ^ ^   LoL.   Grin  ^ ^ ^

Here are some noteworthy libertarian perspectives:

"i dont want any supper powers the usa should not be the world police." - thermf5


“The United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world.” - Libertarian Party Chair Geoffrey J. Neale
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 24th, 2018 at 4:42pm
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I don't want us to police the world, I just get concerned from time to time that ruthless dictatorships will conquer the world...

As I've said, I have paranoid tendencies when it comes to the possibility of being a subject of a ruthless dictatorship. I would have trouble getting along.

Maybe having Russian warships (if they really have some that function) in the Mediterranean will get the attention of Europeans...

Probably not.

They are busy collapsing their economies with "socialism" and trying to deal with the chaos they've created by opening their borders.

Anarchists seem to be coming out of the woodwork world wide. Shocked
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 25th, 2018 at 12:43pm
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Sen. Rand Paul lambastes warmongers in an epic twitterstorm:

You’ll be surprised to learn I have some grievances with people in Washington, fellow members and others. It’s time to talk about them now, because it’s the holiday season.

My friend Lindsay Graham is a bit mad right now. You see, he’s never seen a war end before. He’s going to have to console himself with the fact that we still are in about 8 more. I know it will be hard for him, but I think he’ll get by.

Well, actually…let’s talk about John Bolton. I don’t have a grievance. I just really would have liked to have been in the room when the POTUS told him to END a war. How many times do you think he made the President repeat it because he didn’t even know what the words meant?

I opposed John Bolton being hired. But I really can’t think of anything that makes me happier then thinking of him having to end wars for the rest of his time in the White House.

Speaking of criminal justice reform, I have to give Jared Kushner credit. He was great on this. And I’m glad I got to know him, because before that I was a bit suspicious he was the kid from the Omen movie all grown up.


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Re: Prez Trump Withdraws All US Troops From Syria
Reply #19 - Dec 25th, 2018 at 4:10pm
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Sen. Rand Paul lambastes warmongers in an epic twitterstorm:

Warmongers in the U.S. yes...

Is anyone lambasting warmongers in Russia or China or Iran or Palestine or North Korea?

I'll do it.

If nothing else, they give credibility to warmongers in Congress.
  
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