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Re: The Thread for Jeff to Answer Questions
Reply #490 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 12:55pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:54am:
The word “consent” is a verb.  Therefore it is an action.  One either performs an action or one doesn’t.
Consent of the governed, in the context of our American forms of government has a specific meaning, and it's not what you say it is.

It has to do with a government constrained by laws approved by the people (in representative democratic fashion) that can be altered by the people (in representative democratic fashion) but which can't be altered by the government. It is also directly connected to the ability to elect representatives to serve in the government in free and fair elections.
  
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Reply #491 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 1:00pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:54am:
There is no realistic way to withdraw the supposed consent Jeff and Kaz believe in.
Article V of the Constitution, as I keep telling you, provides just such a means. Consent to the current form of government can be withdrawn by abolishing or altering that from of government.

There is no mechanism for people like you, who don't want any government at all, to individually withdraw your consent, but you could, if you found enough support, alter the Constitution (using the procedures of Article V) so as to provide for no government at all.
  
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Reply #492 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 1:43pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 1:00pm:
Article V of the Constitution, as I keep telling you, provides just such a means. Consent to the current form of government can be withdrawn by abolishing or altering that from of government.



What consent?  I never gave consent.  My ancestors withdrew any supposed consent granted by previous ancestors, but they were slaughtered and burned out of their homes and told they could not withdraw consent.
  

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Reply #493 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 2:59pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
What consent?  I never gave consent.
If individual consent was required from everyone, no government could ever exist, which is what you seem to want. Cheesy


  
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Reply #494 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:08pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
What consent?  I never gave consent.  My ancestors withdrew any supposed consent granted by previous ancestors, but they were slaughtered and burned out of their homes and told they could not withdraw consent.


OMG, I just realized.  You are Elizabeth Warren.  That makes so much sense now.

Nothing I've ever seen on the internet is more creepy than that beer you drank, Lizzy
  

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Reply #495 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:09pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
If individual consent was required from everyone, no government could ever exist, which is what you seem to want. Cheesy




Um ... you do realize he's Don the Socialist, right?
  

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Reply #496 - Apr 10th, 2019 at 7:24pm
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kaz wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:09pm:
Um ... you do realize he's Don the Socialist, right?
As I've said, I think it's just another of the lizards sock puppets.
  
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Reply #497 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 5:13pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:19pm:
In our current public schools under federal and state and government union control, that is generally almost correct. I say almost because it definitely does the majority of students some good. Learning to read and write and do basic math is something that is still accomplished for almost all students even in our worst schools.

As noted in the article, competition is needed, and a voucher program such as I advocate would subject public schools to real competition.

Getting rid of government teachers unions and giving control of the schools back to the local parents would also help, a lot.




That is clearly NOT going to to happen.  Organizations and institutions funded by tax dollars get worse, never better.

So give a choice between continuing to fund public schools - as they are now, not some fantasy of how they might someday be - and ending pubic school so the free market could take care of education, which would you choose?

Can you answer that simple question?

Or should I move it now to my upcoming “Thread for Questions Jeff Runs Awar from like a Welfare Dolee Escapping a Job Fair?”


  

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Reply #498 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 8:43am
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Jeff wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
As I've said, I think it's just another of the lizards sock puppets.


Your lame, BS answer.  Burnsred posts nothing like Opposition.  He posts exactly like Don.

This was your ODD answer.  You can't admit you don't know that, but you can't admit you don't.  So rather than noting the obvious, that Burnsred is Don, you say oh, no, he's Opposition
  

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Re: The Thread for Jeff to Answer Questions
Reply #499 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 8:45am
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
That is clearly NOT going to to happen.  Organizations and institutions funded by tax dollars get worse, never better.

So give a choice between continuing to fund public schools - as they are now, not some fantasy of how they might someday be - and ending pubic school so the free market could take care of education, which would you choose?

Can you answer that simple question?

Or should I move it now to my upcoming “Thread for Questions Jeff Runs Awar from like a Welfare Dolee Escapping a Job Fair?”




And yet you defend government schools.  This is my point.  You think you're being an accurate anarchist, but you're not.  You don't know anything about anarchy other than no taxes, which you chant like save the whales.  It doesn't mean anything, it's all you have.

And you sound fake because you don't believe it.  Tom believes what he's saying, he's a genuine nut job.  He comes across as totally sincere though.  You on the other hand sound entirely fake
  

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