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Re: Lincoln was a tyrant
Reply #110 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 2:09pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 1:03pm:
So, if slavery was not an issue in the slave states decision to secede from the Union, what was the reason?


I'm not going to keep responding to you like I am today.  All you ever do when I respond to you is show me that it was stupid to respond to you.

Take this post.

Jeff:  If I don't like the reason the South seceded, then the North can invade them without violating their consent

You're an idiot
  

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Re: Lincoln was a tyrant
Reply #111 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:12pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 2:09pm:
I'm not going to keep responding to you like I am today.  All you ever do when I respond to you is show me that it was stupid to respond to you.

Take this post.

Jeff:  If I don't like the reason the South seceded, then the North can invade them without violating their consent

You're an idiot
I'll translate your comment:

"Yes Jeff, you are correct, the slave states chose to secede in hope of preserving and extending the evil institution of chattel slavery.

They had no other reason, which means the War to End Slavery in America, no matter what it's called, was about slavery.

Further Jeff, I do understand that claiming the War to End Slavery was about "States Rights" is an evil circumlocution, because the "right" they were talking about was the "right" to keep other people as property, slaves, no better than livestock, and no one has a "right" to do that, even if their state government approves."
  

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Re: Lincoln was a tyrant
Reply #112 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:17pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:12pm:
I'll translate your comment:

"Yes Jeff, you are correct, the slave states chose to secede in hope of preserving and extending the evil institution of chattel slavery.

They had no other reason, which means the War to End Slavery in America, no matter what it's called, was about slavery.

Further Jeff, I do understand that claiming the War to End Slavery was about "States Rights" is an evil circumlocution, because the "right" they were talking about was the "right" to keep other people as property, slaves, no better than livestock, and no one has a "right" to do that, even if their state government approves."


If you're going to write tortured posts, you could at least learn how to write them correctly in the English language


  

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Reply #113 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:27pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:17pm:
If you're going to write tortured posts, you could at least learn how to write them correctly in the English language


Sorry, I thought you spoke English...
  

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Reply #114 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:36pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:27pm:
Sorry, I thought you spoke English...


I do.  I also know how to punctuate English writing, which you don't
  

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Reply #115 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:40pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:36pm:
I do.  I also know how to punctuate English writing, which you don't
I know, I was a slacker in English composition. I always got a point or two off for punctuation. Embarrassed

Tell me which part you couldn't understand because of incorrect punctuation, and Ill try to get it right...
  

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Reply #116 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:46pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:40pm:
I know, I was a slacker in English composition. I always got a point or two off for punctuation. Embarrassed

Tell me which part you couldn't understand because of incorrect punctuation, and Ill try to get it right...


I'll get back to you when my booster to remember that responding to you only brings pain wears off again
  

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Reply #117 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 7:00pm
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kaz wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 3:46pm:
I'll get back to you when my booster to remember that responding to you only brings pain wears off again
OK. How long does it last? A couple of years would be nice, wouldn' tit?

Ooops! I hope no one is offended because I seemed to say  "wooden tit"... Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
  

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Reply #118 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 8:19am
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Just some background to the War to End Slavery in America, the History of the Kansas Nebraska Act of 1854:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas%E2%80%93Nebraska_Act

From the article:

"After the passage of the act, pro- and anti-slavery elements flooded into Kansas with the goal of establishing a population that would vote for or against slavery, resulting in a series of armed conflicts known as "Bleeding Kansas".[2] Douglas and Pierce hoped that popular sovereignty would help bring an end to the national debate over slavery, but the Kansas–Nebraska Act outraged many Northerners, giving rise to the anti-slavery Republican Party. Ongoing tensions over slavery would eventually lead to the American Civil War."

Also from the article at the beginning of the Background section:

"In his 1853 inaugural address, President Franklin Pierce expressed hope that the Compromise of 1850 had settled the debate over the issue of slavery in the territories."
  

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