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Reply #70 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:35pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 4:46pm:
Edit: I thought you knew that pretty much all taxes go into the general fund


No shit.  Where did you get I didn't know that?  For your next trick can you tell me that there are 50 States of different sizes?
  

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Reply #71 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:40pm
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ahhell wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
She is wrong about many things but I'd bet she did not say this.  Spreading fake news will not help the cause it will only make the cause look stupid and aid the likes AOC. 


Agreed.  Quotes should be accurate.  Like how the left constantly lie about what Trump said, by rephrasing it to what they want him to have said.

She did say this though, which is equivalent:

"Cities and states with strong gun laws have managed to cut gun violence significantly without running afoul of the Second Amendment."

I'm not defending the meme, but unlike Fake News changing Trump's quotes, at least the meme is equivalent to what she said
  

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Reply #72 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:44pm
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ahhell wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
She is wrong about many things but I'd bet she did not say this.  Spreading fake news will not help the cause it will only make the cause look stupid and aid the likes AOC. 

Ok. I deleted it.

" I'd love to be inaugurated January 3rd.  January 4th, I would sign in health care,  we're signing this... (unintelligible)...  But really is that we have a duty to always fight and maintain the strength of our boundaries."

WHAT???

The woman is nuttier than squirrel poop!   So are the people who voted for her.  Grin

This is why we need a Voter Proficiency Exam.
  
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Reply #73 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 6:31pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
Ok. I deleted it.

" I'd love to be inaugurated January 3rd.  January 4th, I would sign in health care,  we're signing this... (unintelligible)...  But really is that we have a duty to always fight and maintain the strength of our boundaries."

WHAT???

The woman is nuttier than squirrel poop!   So are the people who voted for her.  Grin

This is why we need a Voter Proficiency Exam.
You've posted quite a bit of this sort of shit lately Chief... Are you being coerced?

Perhaps doing it for personal gain?

How can I trust you now? Cry
  

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Reply #74 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 8:10pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 6:31pm:
You've posted quite a bit of this sort of shit lately Chief... Are you being coerced?

Perhaps doing it for personal gain?

How can I trust you now? Cry

Not coercion.  I'm fuelled by booze.  You are too.

So we're even.   Grin.   Trust becomes easy now.  There is common ground. . . . The fundamental basis for trust!
  
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Reply #75 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 6:30am
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kaz wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:35pm:
No shit.  Where did you get I didn't know that?  For your next trick can you tell me that there are 50 States of different sizes?
I think it was when you said this:

"Note for Jeff:  All redistribution of wealth taxes are armed robbery."

You seemed to be saying that there are taxes that are levied just for the re-distribution of wealth and that the revenue they produce is somehow sequestered and used only for that purpose.

Thanks for letting me know I misunderstood what you were saying.
  

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Reply #76 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 6:54am
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Jeff wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 6:30am:
I think it was when you said this:

"Note for Jeff:  All redistribution of wealth taxes are armed robbery."

You seemed to be saying that there are taxes that are levied just for the re-distribution of wealth and that the revenue they produce is somehow sequestered and used only for that purpose


No, I was saying that you need my full position elaborated in every post because you can't remember what I said in my last post when you read the next one
  

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Reply #77 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 7:26am
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kaz wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 6:54am:
No, I was saying that you need my full position elaborated in every post because you can't remember what I said in my last post when you read the next one
Didn't you tell me that once before?

We agree that words matter. My position is that it's the redistributive spending that is wrong and unconstitutional and it doesn't matter what Congress says the tax is for when they collect it, so long as it's collected legally... It especially doesn't matter when they just chuck all the revenue in one big basket.

"Redistribution of wealth taxes" are something I don't think exist in reality. Just like F.I.C.A. 'contributions' are mandatory and really nothing but a tax on working people that should be apportioned because it's Direct. Just like there is no 'Social Security Trust Fund' in a 'lockbox'. There isn't even any lock box.
  

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Reply #78 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 8:35am
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Jeff wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 7:26am:
Didn't you tell me that once before?

We agree that words matter. My position is that it's the redistributive spending that is wrong and unconstitutional and it doesn't matter what Congress says the tax is for when they collect it, so long as it's collected legally... It especially doesn't matter when they just chuck all the revenue in one big basket.

"Redistribution of wealth taxes" are something I don't think exist in reality. Just like F.I.C.A. 'contributions' are mandatory and really nothing but a tax on working people that should be apportioned because it's Direct. Just like there is no 'Social Security Trust Fund' in a 'lockbox'. There isn't even any lock box.


OK, I see what you're saying.

Taxes spent on redistributing wealth are stealing.  That portion of the taxes that are for that purpose.  Separating money is irrelevant, as Opposition correctly stated, money is fungible.

If you are taxed $1 and 60 cents is paid to someone else then that was stolen.  The other 40 cents is not necessarily clean, but the 60 was pure armed robbery.

It doesn't matter what you were taxed for.  If it is used for redistribution, it's armed robbery.  Period
  

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Reply #79 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 10:46am
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kaz wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
Agreed.  Quotes should be accurate.  Like how the left constantly lie about what Trump said, by rephrasing it to what they want him to have said.
One of the "up sides" of Trump is that its made the notion that the main stream media is unbiased unsupportable.  With the exception of Fox and a few clearly rightwing sources, the media has been unable to contain their bias.


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She did say this though, which is equivalent:

"Cities and states with strong gun laws have managed to cut gun violence significantly without running afoul of the Second Amendment."

I'm not defending the meme, but unlike Fake News changing Trump's quotes, at least the meme is equivalent to what she said

That's bits debatable.  Its not close enough that I would spread that meme around anyway.
  
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