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Reply #70 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:40am
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kaz wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 9:31am:
It does seem that no one who could win the nomination could win the election.  But this country keeps careening to the left, eventually they will win

I disagree.

The radical left embraces socialism.  The young and ignorant also embrace socialism.   But these idiots are not going to decide who the next president will be. (thank goodness)

It will be INDEPENDENTS who decide.   They are the largest voting bloc (by far). 

And most independents reject socialism and redistribution.  That's why they became independents in the first place  -  most indies were former democrats who got fed up with insane leftist policy.

Who do you think elected Trump?  Dems?  Of course not.  MAGA hats?  Nope.  just not enough of them.

It was the Indies.

The further left the dems go, the more they alienate the indies. 

Trump knows this, and exploits it.
  
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Reply #71 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:46am
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:40am:
I disagree.

The radical left embraces socialism.  The young and ignorant also embrace socialism.   But these idiots are not going to decide who the next president will be. (thank goodness)

It will be INDEPENDENTS who decide.   They are the largest voting bloc (by far). 

And most independents reject socialism and redistribution.  That's why they became independents in the first place  -  most indies were former democrats who got fed up with insane leftist policy.

Who do you think elected Trump?  Dems?  Of course not.  MAGA hats?  Nope.  just not enough of them.

It was the Indies.

The further left the dems go, the more they alienate the indies. 

Trump knows this, and exploits it.


I said the left will "eventually" win.  I did not say they will win this election
  

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Reply #72 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:49am
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kaz wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:46am:
I said the left will "eventually" win.  I did not say they will win this election
I still say you are wrong. Historical determination (Edit: Sorry, I meant Historical Determinism) requires that individual liberty will eventually win out over tyranny. Marx was wrong too. Smiley
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Reply #73 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 1:07pm
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Joe Biden proposes an overly ambitious Big-Government ($5 Trillion) plan to fix climate change.

"The climate has been changing for millions of years.  We CAN stop it!  All it takes is a government with the stones to do it  -  and a BOATLOAD of tax funding, of course,  ha-ha!" [Joe giggles]

Ok, Joe never actually said that.  I would have a lot more respect for him if he had, though.

“Science tells us that how we act or fail to act in the next 12 years will determine the very livability of our planet.  That’s why I’m calling for a clean energy revolution to confront this crisis and do what America does best — solve big problems with big ideas.”

Uh, you mean solve big problems with big government.

Nice try, Joe.

Sleepy Joe's $5 Trillion Climate plan is not AS odious as AOC's $94 Trillion Green New Deal plan - but odious, it is.

Joe promises a more aggressive Environmental Protection Agency, vows to have clean drinking water for all Americans and pledges that minority communities will be targeted for initial investments in federal clean energy spending.   

Get out your wallets, US Taxpayers!    Grin  Government will take control and care for the people.

Joe promises to complete the California High Speed Rail (aka "Rail To Nowhere") project.  A multi-billion dollar boondoggle.  Nice.

Among his ideas for automobiles, Joe says government will MANDATE that all vehicles sold in the US MUST be capable of achieving 54 MPG. [My Harley doesn't even get this fuel economy!!   Grin]

 Of course, only a few Automobile manufacturers will even attempt this goal, so SUV and light trucks will need to be discontinued -- -we can expect many auto factory closures, and massive layoffs. 

Yep.    Socialism sucks.    Deal with it.   Sad

https://time.com/5600493/joe-biden-climate-proposal/

  
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Reply #74 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 3:28pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 1:07pm:
Joe Biden proposes an overly ambitious Big-Government ($5 Trillion) plan to fix climate change.


If everybody in the world pitches in their fair share, it's only around $650/person/year over a 10 year period... Who woouldn't give that much to save the earth? (Hey, I'm getting old, could we wait until it gets a bit warmer first? But wait, is it really going to get warmer? What if they are wrong and we spend all that money and it brings on an ice age?)

What I want to know is who will get the money and what we will get in return.
  

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Reply #75 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 3:31pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 1:07pm:
Joe promises a more aggressive Environmental Protection Agency, vows to have clean drinking water for all Americans and pledges that minority communities will be targeted for initial investments in federal clean energy spending.   
Good idea, I've noticed that poor people tend to throw trash around in their yards and neighborhoods... Joe's going to clean that up first?

Oops... Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Sorry, I mis-read again.

Anyway, which minorities? Rich lawyers are a minority, right? They all get a free Tesla?
  

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Reply #76 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 4:46pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
Anyway, which minorities? Rich lawyers are a minority, right? They all get a free Tesla?

Well, maybe not a FREE Tesla, but Creepy Joe promises expanded tax credits for purchases of electric vehicles, along with 500,000 more public charging stations nationwide by the end of 2030. 

Wow!   Shocked

It takes a powerful government to control production of half a million charging stations!..

That's gonna cost a lot money, Joe.   So, who do you think is gonna pay for it?

Wipe that shit-eatin' grin off your face, Joe.   Angry
  
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Reply #77 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:43pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 4:46pm:
Well, maybe not a FREE Tesla, but Creepy Joe promises expanded tax credits for purchases of electric vehicles, along with 500,000 more public charging stations nationwide by the end of 2030. 

He should get out in the world some, and I don't mean visiting some communist paradise again and touring all the Potemkin villages, I mean come around where I live, where an extraordinary number of people still drive cars and trucks made in the '70s, mainly because they can't afford newer cars and they can still keep the old stuff running...


BTW, what does he mean by "public" charging stations?
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Reply #78 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 6:22pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:43pm:
BTW, what does he mean by "public" charging stations?
By "Public", he means State-funded charging stations which are "Free" to use.

Privately-owned charging stations have a fee based on hourly use, OR a have a flat rate "session" fee.

The Hourly ones are the best value because most electric cars are just "topping off" a charge and will reach a full charge within the 1st hour.
  
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Reply #79 - Jun 5th, 2019 at 6:49am
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 4:46pm:
Well, maybe not a FREE Tesla, but Creepy Joe promises expanded tax credits for purchases of electric vehicles, along with 500,000 more public charging stations nationwide by the end of 2030. 

Wow!   Shocked

It takes a powerful government to control production of half a million charging stations!..

That's gonna cost a lot money, Joe.   So, who do you think is gonna pay for it?

Wipe that shit-eatin' grin off your face, Joe.   Angry


It's amazing, thanks Joe!  Government money is free money!
  

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