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Reply #20 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:43pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 5:28pm:
Who will be expected to pay their air fare to Cape Horn?  Not ME, I hope!


You prefer to pay them welfare, give them free healthcare, educate their kids, ... ?
  

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Reply #21 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:43pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:50am:
The CATO "Gold Card" tariff schedule is a convoluted mess.  It would require forming another bloated gov't administration.
No, it's pretty straightforward and would pay for the INS to administer it with a lot left over. Smiley

The tax code is a convoluted mess. The regulatory state is an even bigger and more convoluted mess.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:06pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
You prefer to pay them welfare, give them free healthcare, educate their kids, ... ?

I prefer they keep their hands off my property and wallet.   

I certainly don't want to pay airfares for people that I don't even know.

(frankly, I don't want to pay airfares for people that I DO know)
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:15pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:06pm:
I prefer they keep their hands off my property and wallet.   

I certainly don't want to pay airfares for people that I don't even know.

(frankly, I don't want to pay airfares for people that I DO know)


When you say "airfare", I said nothing about them flying Delta ...

So you're not for the wall either because you shouldn't have to pay the cost?  I'm for the wall, I don't give a shit about the cost
  

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Reply #24 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:18pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:15pm:
When you say "airfare", I said nothing about them flying Delta ...

So you're not for the wall either because you shouldn't have to pay the cost?  I'm for the wall, I don't give a shit about the cost

I'm FOR the wall. I'm against paying to fly them to Cape Horn as you suggested.
  
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Reply #25 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:44pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
I'm FOR the wall. I'm against paying to fly them to Cape Horn as you suggested.


So how do you make that determination?  What you will and won't pay for to avoid adopting illegal aliens?
  

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Reply #26 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:14pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
So how do you make that determination?  What you will and won't pay for to avoid adopting illegal aliens?

The same way I made the determination that I'm ok with local gov't using my Property-Tax dollars to pay for roads, police dept., fire dept., and City Hall, but NOT ok with local gov't using my Property-Tax dollars to pay for a Cultural Sensitivity and Awareness Museum.   Smiley

(Which actually was proposed in my city last November.  Fortunately, voters nixed it!)
  
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Reply #27 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:45pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
The same way I made the determination that I'm ok with local gov't using my Property-Tax dollars to pay for roads, police dept., fire dept., and City Hall, but NOT ok with local gov't using my Property-Tax dollars to pay for a Cultural Sensitivity and Awareness Museum.   Smiley

(Which actually was proposed in my city last November.  Fortunately, voters nixed it!)


Poor analogy.  Flying them to South America is cheaper than adopting them.

It was meant tongue in cheek, but you seem to have missed that.  I was curious what your standard was.  That seems arbitrary
  

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Reply #28 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 6:36pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
Poor analogy.  Flying them to South America is cheaper than adopting them.

It's a (nearly) perfect analogy.  Some things we (taxpayers) are willing to pay for - other things, we aren't.

Of course, this is an individual preference which depends on one's political dogma.

The left thinks nothing of spending trillions of fed tax dollars on welfare and medicare for all, but squawk when a couple hundred billion are used for weapon-system contracts for the M.I.C., or $6 Billion for border security.

The right thinks nothing of using trillions of fed tax dollars to pay for Military expansion, but are hopping mad when $1.5 Billion is spent on aborting unwanted fetuses (Planned Parenthood).

But at least both the left and the right love taxes and spending.  They can agree on that much, at least!   Smiley
  
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Reply #29 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:30pm
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SkyChief wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
It's a (nearly) perfect analogy.  Some things we (taxpayers) are willing to pay for - other things, we aren't


Yes, and according to you, sometimes you're willing to pay a hundred times what the alternative will cost you, and other times you won't.  I was interested in narrowing that down.  What will you not pay a hundred times what the alternative will cost you and when will you pay a hundred times what the alternative will cost you?  A wall and you will.  A C5M and you won't
  

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