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Reply #10 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 10:30pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 7:40pm:
You mean like these cases:


No.
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 11:36pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 10:30pm:
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So, can you tell me about some cases in which a taxpayer sued over an illegal tax and the court sided with the taxpayer?


  

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Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:05am
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Little Big Man wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 11:36pm:
So, can you tell me about some cases in which a taxpayer sued over an illegal tax and the court sided with the taxpayer?


First you should read through the arguments presented and the opinions written pertaining to the cases you cited.

You'll find a lot of confused B.S. from the Judges, who I believe are being intentionally confusing because they understand how much revenue is raised by taxing wages and salaries without apportionment, and how little could be raised from wages and salaries if such taxes were apportioned as they are required to be. It would be a loss of well over a trillion dollars, so the Judges say to themselves "What would happen to America without all that revenue Shocked Shocked Shocked"

Here's a good article you could learn from:

https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/income-tax-wages-salaries-immoral-unconstitutiona...
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 12:37pm
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Jeff wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:05am:
First you should read through the arguments presented and the opinions written pertaining to the cases you cited.

You'll find a lot of confused B.S. from the Judges, who I believe are being intentionally confusing because they understand how much revenue is raised by taxing wages and salaries without apportionment, and how little could be raised from wages and salaries if such taxes were apportioned as they are required to be. It would be a loss of well over a trillion dollars, so the Judges say to themselves "What would happen to America without all that revenue Shocked Shocked Shocked"


That is exactly right  and I addressed that in my most recent post about how often the courts strike down taxes. 

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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:45pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
Thank you.  I'm always looking for reading that I can learn from from which I can learn.
That's a wee bit snarky, but clever. It's nice to see you haven't changed completely. Kiss
  

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Reply #15 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:51pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
That is exactly right  and I addressed that in my most recent post about how often the courts strike down taxes. 


Thank you.  I'm always looking for free gay porn.  It floats my boat, if you know what I mean.


Well, on the taxes, taxes grow government.  Limiting government is limiting their own power.  As I keep saying, the three branches of government have the same interest, they aren't going to check each other's growth
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:32pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
Well, on the taxes, taxes grow government.  Limiting government is limiting their own power.  As I keep saying, the three branches of government have the same interest, they aren't going to check each other's growth


Right.

The voters would have more influence if we had system in which a single president appointed heads of agencies to pass regulations and judges to rule on cases.  Especially if there were no presidential term limits and the president had to run every two years.

Not saying that's the best way.  Best way is to limit government by never giving it power to take our property by force and therefore it cannot grow out of proportion to the desires of the people.




  

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Reply #17 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:36pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Right.

The voters would have more influence if we had system in which a single president appointed heads of agencies to pass regulations and judges to rule on cases.  Especially if there were no presidential term limits and the president had to run every two years.

Not saying that's the best way.  Best way is to limit government by never giving it power to take our property by force and therefore it cannot grow out of proportion to the desires of the people.






You're an anarchist, you're against taxes because taxes are stealing and stealing is anarchy which is anarchist stealing taxes stealing anarchy taxes and taxing anarchy stealing taxes anarchistically.

You mentioned that.  You're a one trick pony trolling a libertarian board.  Mention government and you dump on taxes.

You and therm, there may be relationship potential there.  You both tell the same joke over and over and over
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:59pm
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Little Big Man wrote Today at 12:37pm:
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Thank you.  I'm always looking for reading that I can learn from from which I can learn.


Jeff wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
That's a wee bit snarky, but clever. It's nice to see you haven't changed completely. Kiss


Right, I hope I didn't promise to.  I conducted the poll on "the new me" which was the me that is much less snarky.


  

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Re: 100 Years Old to Buy Cigarettes?
Reply #19 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 6:00pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
You're an anarchist, you're against taxes because taxes are stealing and stealing is anarchy which is anarchist stealing taxes stealing anarchy taxes and taxing anarchy stealing taxes anarchistically.

You mentioned that.  You're a one trick pony trolling a libertarian board.  Mention government and you dump on taxes.

You and therm, there may be relationship potential there.  You both tell the same joke over and over and over


Ok, so trying to understand where you draw the line between serious conversation and stupid shit:  is it my saying that taxes are theft that crosses the line?  If I just advocate for all the other ways to limit government besides not giving them the right to tax, I wouldn't be talking stupid shit?

  

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