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Re: Propertarianism - Private Property And Contracts
Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:46pm
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kaz wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
Again you want only victims of crimes to pay for it.


kaz wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 4:12pm:
Not what I said.  I said if you are going to drive legally on roads, you should provide minimum protection for other drivers from you on ... government ... roads.  You're turning that around into that I'm demanding you protect yourself from others, which is a strawman with a completely different meaning.

So for uninsured drivers, it's your choice what insurance to buy.  Apparently you choice not to buy it.  But that you draw a parallel between that you should be protected from lawbreakers for free because you're required to protect others from you is bogus.


I already conceded that I shouldn't be protected from lawbreakers for free.

Should I take that back?
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Propertarianism - Private Property And Contracts
Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:49pm
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
I already conceded that I shouldn't be protected from lawbreakers for free.

Should I take that back?


Certainly the quotes are related, but you're mixing discussions and it's a little funktified.  I'm not quite clear what you're arguing exactly.

My point to burnsred was that with roads, if we have a gas tax then the more you drive the more you pay for the roads, which is pretty fair.  It's a use tax.

Crime isn't quite the same.  With crime, that police come and arrest criminals protects future victims.  Locking them up in jail protects future victims.  Why should only direct crime victims pay for law enforcement?  It's not equivalent to roads.  Why should victims be screwed again and be the only ones who have to pay for law enforcement?

I know you're trying to relate that to our insurance discussion, but I need you to be more specific what you're arguing
  

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Re: Propertarianism - Private Property And Contracts
Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 6:27pm
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The Opposition wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
I already conceded that I shouldn't be protected from lawbreakers for free.

Who said that (if you actually are human) you should not share in the equal protection of the law? That's a very unlibertarian idea... Say, you're not some sort of elitist are you? Grin
  
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