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Reply #20 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:54pm
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kaz wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:50pm:
It would be inconsistent in that the Libertarian Party goal has been to hurt Republicans.
You believe that?
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:57pm
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Jeff wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:54pm:
You believe that?


Give counter examples
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:06pm
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kaz wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:52pm:
That's bull crap.  Obama, W, Slick were all worse

“Great nations do not fight endless wars.  We’re bringing our troops back home.  I got elected on bringing our soldiers back home.”  said Trump in his state of the union address.

Well, he hasn't.  He has only jockeyed them around.   Trumps term started with roughly 194k US troops deployed abroad, and three years later, that number hasn't changed.

source: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2019-12-03/trump-didnt-shrink-us-militar...

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"I am enthusiastically absolutely dedicated to not getting us into these quagmires overseas and ending foreign entanglements" and trying to curb the "$22.6 trillion debt."

These are big promises.  Promises that he would not fulfill.   Anyone who believes campaign promises is gullible fool.

The last time I voted for someone based on a campaign promise was George "read my lips" Bush (41).
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Reply #23 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:06pm:
“Great nations do not fight endless wars.  We’re bringing our troops back home.  I got elected on bringing our soldiers back home.”  said Trump in his state of the union address.

Well, he hasn't.  He has only jockeyed them around.   Trumps term started with roughly 194k US troops deployed abroad, and three years later, that number hasn't changed.

source: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2019-12-03/trump-didnt-shrink-us-militar...

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"I am enthusiastically absolutely dedicated to not getting us into these quagmires overseas and ending foreign entanglements" and trying to curb the "$22.6 trillion debt."

These are big promises.  Promises that he would not fulfill.   Anyone who believes campaign promises is gullible fool.

The last time I voted for someone based on a campaign promise was George "read my lips" Bush (41).


Right.  We've agreed repeatedly on that.   I'm just assuming you have long term memory on that.   Trump has been a disappointment on the middle east.   

However, that doesn't make him worse than the prior recent Presidents, which was the claim.  He isn't.

It's like saying Trump's failed to deliver on the wall, so Obama built more wall.  That's a non-sequitur
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 6:00pm
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kaz wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm:
It's like saying Trump's failed to deliver on the wall, so Obama built more wall.
Obama didn't promise to build a wall. He promised other things, but not that.
  

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Reply #25 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 6:41pm
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Jeff wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 6:00pm:
Obama didn't promise to build a wall. He promised other things, but not that.


Sssaaawwwwwisshhhhhhhhh.

And another one flies over Jeff's head ...

I understand the point you tried to make, but it still didn't address what I said
  

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Reply #26 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 7:03am
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Trumps tariffs aren't working except to hurt Americans.

https://reason.com/2020/01/07/2-new-studies-show-trumps-tariffs-have-been-costly...

Trump, just like other recent presidents, hasn't done what he said he'd do, and has done things he said he wouldn't do. He doesn't deserve re-election.

And no, that doesn't mean I support Bernie. Cheesy
  

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Reply #27 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 7:29am
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Name one president that has done every single thing that he has promised or proposed.  Only a dictator or tyrant can.
  
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Reply #28 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:07am
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yamcha wrote on Jan 8th, 2020 at 7:29am:
Name one president that has done every single thing that he has promised or proposed.
Calvin Coolidge. Smiley

His only promise was contained within his Oath of Office.
  

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Reply #29 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 9:24am
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Yes!  How could I forget Silent Cal, The Sphinx of the Potomac!  Coolidge just kind of let things run themselves, didn't he?  I wonder if he would stand a chance in today's political arena.
  
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