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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #20 - Apr 8th, 2019 at 7:14pm
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johnfkosanke wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 3:50pm:
No layers. Only agreement between bodies for making changes to the structure or functions. (see my link above).
What if the bodies don't agree?
  
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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #21 - Apr 8th, 2019 at 9:23pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sorry, I assumed you would know what I meant when I said "legalistic religion".


What is your definition of legalistic religion?
  
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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #22 - Apr 8th, 2019 at 9:35pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
What if the bodies don't agree?

Without agreement, no changes are made to the legal entity, and no previously unspecified or unauthorized actions are taken by the body.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 8th, 2019 at 10:00pm
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This sounds great. I volunteer to take the test for anyone who wants me to. I will not charge for this.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #24 - Apr 8th, 2019 at 10:31pm
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 10:00pm:
This sounds great. I volunteer to take the test for anyone who wants me to. I will not charge for this.


Send me your e-mail (PM or e-mail) and I will sign you up so you can get credit for the test.

That also goes for anyone else who's interested.
  
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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #25 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:51am
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johnfkosanke wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 10:31pm:
Send me your e-mail (PM or e-mail) and I will sign you up so you can get credit for the test.

That also goes for anyone else who's interested.


Oh no; I'm clearly not worthy to join Libertarianism the Religion. I'm always the one getting shat on for not understanding which dogma I'm supposed to be blindly following.

In fact, since I don't have any rights, it would probably be some kind of sacrilege for you to let me join.

merkelstan wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:15pm:
Rothbard's criteria makes more sense, because not only does the entity have to demonstrate conscious thought, it needs to understand the concept of rights and demand them for itself.

Amusingly, The Opposition would fail that test.  I still can't get-over what a mental trainwreck his (her?) "concept" of rights was.


Jeff wrote on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 9:20am:
The Opposition wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:39pm:
That to have rights, a being needs to understand them (agree with exactly how libertarians think they work) and demand them for itself.

I might want rights, but I don't think they [ought to] work the way Rothbard says they do, and furthermore I have a moral objection to making such a demand.


This is what, as far as theories of human rights go, makes you the equivalent of a wild beast. You either can't understand, or refuse to understand, that very human is born with the exact same rights.


Jeff wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 7:49am:
You have no more rights than an animal, because your understanding of rights is at the level of a predatory animal.


I am simply volunteering to take the test for others who want in. I'll start by taking it for Skychief.
  

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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #26 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:13am
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:51am:
I am simply volunteering to take the test for others who want in. I'll start by taking it for Skychief.


And why do you think you'd pass if this were allowed?
  
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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #27 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:28am
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johnfkosanke wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:13am:
And why do you think you'd pass if this were allowed?


I read. A lot. Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, Nozick, Hayek. I have no reason to think I wouldn't pass.

Why would I assume it wouldn't be allowed?
  

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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #28 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:32am
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:51am:
I might want rights, but I don't think they [ought to] work the way Rothbard says they do, and furthermore I have a moral objection to making such a demand.


I'm new to this forum, so bear with me. Could you briefly outline how you believe rights ought to work?
  
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Re: Church of the Invisible Hand
Reply #29 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:38am
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:28am:
I read. A lot. Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, Nozick, Hayek. I have no reason to think I wouldn't pass.

Why would I assume it wouldn't be allowed?


You can't take a test for someone else. Arbitrators are required to have a knowledge of basic economics. The test is meant to document that knowledge.
  
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