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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #20 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 8:52am
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kaz wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 8:35am:
This was one of your better trolling attempts.  A pattern or an aberration?

Actually, this shows the need to protect us from outside invaders.

There's no conclusion to your no taxes, no taxes, no taxes mantra that doesn't involve any other solution.

Burnsred:  We should have let the British invade us to be free!

OK, it's still lame, but you chose lame when you chose to troll the board


So in your version of history, the founders levied taxes, then raised a bunch of revenue, then built an army and thenfought the brits? 

You should google Haym Saloman and learn a little.
  

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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #21 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 9:02am
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 8:52am:
So in your version of history, the founders levied taxes, then raised a bunch of revenue, then built an army and thenfought the brits? 

You should google Haym Saloman and learn a little.




I'll let you read up on history yourself, professor.  Given what you just said, you need to do some reading up since clearly you don't know it.

But sure, let's go with your assertion that the US proved we shouldn't have taxes.

So the Americans didn't want to pay British taxes.  We ultimately created a tax to fight back from their conquering us.  Big mistake, you say.

So, we don't have taxes.  Walk me through how that leads to our independence and not paying taxes when the Brits invade us and how we make them stop constantly conscripting Americans into the British Navy. 

Go ...
  

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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #22 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 1:16pm
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:23am:
...If a change in policy makes you both: worse off than you were under the previous policy, and worse off than you would be in a state of nature, you may object to the policy change on those grounds alone....

Added to my List of Clever Quotes.      Smiley    Smiley

You're in very good company - here are a few random quotes from that list;

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens

"No insurance policy in the world will cover losses incurred by government theft." - SkyChief

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." - Ayn Rand

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."  - Socrates


Here's a quote that DIDN'T make the list (but almost did):

"Why is it called 'Tourist Season' if we can't shoot them?" - George Carlin
  
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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #23 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 10:03pm
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SkyChief wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 1:16pm:
Added to my List of Clever Quotes.      Smiley    Smiley

You're in very good company -




Thank you. I needed that today.

I don't agree with the Socrates one at all, but the rest are gold.

SkyChief wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 1:16pm:
"Why is it called 'Tourist Season' if we can't shoot them?" - George Carlin


They destroy the equilibrium of others so they can gain far less equilibrium for themselves.

My home planet is almost entirely arid and hot. I had never seen snow. Colorado is %$#&ing cold in the winter. I not only deal with it, I don't run up the heating bill either.

When snowbirds leave their homes, they're not only asking an economy that can't properly absorb them to do so, they're also starving their home economy. There will never be enough space for them, because that space won't be there unless someone is filling it in the opposite season.

Places like Florida and California have booming business in the winter, but it doesn't create jobs and growth like it should because those people have nothing to do in the summer. The economies left behind have the same problem.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #24 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 4:47am
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SkyChief wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 1:16pm:
Added to my List of Clever Quotes.      Smiley    Smiley

You're in very good company - here are a few random quotes from that list;

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens

"No insurance policy in the world will cover losses incurred by government theft." - SkyChief

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." - Ayn Rand

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."  - Socrates


Here's a quote that DIDN'T make the list (but almost did):

"Why is it called 'Tourist Season' if we can't shoot them?" - George Carlin


"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."-- Denis Diderot

George Bush and King Abdullah:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=george+bush+and+ki+abdullah+pics&qpvt=eorge...

  
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Reply #25 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 8:48am
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 10:03pm:
Places like Florida and California have booming business in the winter, but it doesn't create jobs and growth like it should because those people have nothing to do in the summer. The economies left behind have the same problem.


I don't know what "like it should" means.  They are there a few months.  Or I should say here since I live in Florida.  Then they go home.  Why would it create jobs and growth as if they are here full time when they are not?  The rest of the year they grow their local economies up north.

My mother does the reverse now.  Summer in Michigan, the rest of the year here in Florida.  She creates more jobs and growth mostly here and some there.  As it should ...
  

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Reply #26 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 9:38am
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SkyChief wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 1:16pm:
Added to my List of Clever Quotes.      Smiley    Smiley

You're in very good company - here are a few random quotes from that list;

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens

"No insurance policy in the world will cover losses incurred by government theft." - SkyChief

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." - Ayn Rand

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."  - Socrates


Here's a quote that DIDN'T make the list (but almost did):

"Why is it called 'Tourist Season' if we can't shoot them?" - George Carlin


Another quote from George Carlin was "The median IQ is 100, and the scary part is that half the people are dumber than that!"
  
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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #27 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 9:59am
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Tom Palven wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 9:38am:
Another quote from George Carlin was "The median IQ is 100, and the scary part is that half the people are dumber than that!"


Which side of the line does someone who obsesses over the word neocon but doesn't know what the word means and constantly uses it wrong lie?

World's simplest neocon quiz.  Covers most of the term neocon.

1)  Obama is a neocon, Rush isn't.  Why?

2)  W is a neocon, Bernie isn't.  Why?

Your chance to prove you know what the word means.

Tom:  Neocon is a word to describe anyone I don't like
  

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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #28 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:26pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 4:47am:
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."-- Denis Diderot
Nice.    Added to list!    Smiley
  
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Re: When *Exactly* Government Crosses the Line
Reply #29 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 9:13pm
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kaz wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 8:48am:
I don't know what "like it should" means.


That it's more difficult for the economy to grow to accommodate snowbirds because the people needed to serve the snowbirds can't commit to serving the snowbirds.

To have people occupying those niches and surviving, those niches need to be there for the whole year.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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