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Re: Bernie Sanders' "Medicare For All" Plan May Be Too Costly
Reply #30 - May 9th, 2019 at 7:49am
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Medicare is in trouble even without turning it into "Medicare for all", and no one, especially Bernie, has a plan for how to rescue Medicare as it now exists, much less a plan to make "Medicare for all" work...

https://reason.com/2019/05/08/bernie-sanders-thinks-medicare-for-all-would-solve...

Edit: Wait, I forgot, tax the rich, make them pay for excellent health care for everyone! (Too bad the numbers don't work, which is why they are never presented to us...)
  

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Reply #31 - Oct 29th, 2019 at 2:30pm
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Earlier today, CNBC's John Harwood challenged Comrade Bernie to explain how Medicare For All could be funded.

Bernie's response shocked Harwood:

"You're asking me to come up with an exact detailed plan of how every American — how much you're going to pay more in taxes, how much I'm going to pay. I don't think I have to do that right now."

He won't say how he will raise $3.3 Trillion per year.   There's only one way to raise that kind of funding:

Raise Income Taxes to 62% on the working class and middle class taxpayers.

Democrats are dumb enough to accept a Tax increase like that.

Republicans and Independents aren't.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/467885-sanders-i-dont-think-i-have-to-rele...

edit: corrected spelling errors
« Last Edit: Oct 29th, 2019 at 4:46pm by SkyChief »  

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Re: Bernie Sanders' "Medicare For All" Plan May Be Too Costly
Reply #32 - Oct 29th, 2019 at 2:48pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 29th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
Earlier today, CNBC's John Harwood challenged Comrage Bernie to explain how Medicare For All could be funded.

Bernie's response shocked Harwood:

"You're asking me to come up with an exact detailed plan of how every American — how much you're going to pay more in taxes, how much I'm going to pay. I don't think I have to do that right now."

He won't say how he will raise $3.3 Trillion per year.   There's only one way to raise that kind of funding:

Raise Income Taxes to 62% on the working class and middle class taxpayers.

Democrats are dumb enough to accept a Tax increase like that.

Republicans and Independents aren't.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/467885-sanders-i-dont-think-i-have-to-rele...
The Medicare For All plan will be like the ACA, no one will get to see it until it's enacted. Cool

Edit: Far too many people think "The government is going to pay for it all, so they will just use government money." Cheesy
  

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Re: Bernie Sanders' "Medicare For All" Plan May Be Too Costly
Reply #33 - Nov 1st, 2019 at 3:28pm
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Today, Pocahontas explained her plan to fund "Medicare For All" WITHOUT raising taxes on the working class and the middle class.

Pocahontas will simply boost what had been a 3% wealth tax on people with more than a billion dollars to 6%.

But wait - is it really that simple? . . . .  Just double the taxes on a handful of billionaires? . . . . . That would be enough to get $3.4 Trillion per year?

Of course not.    It wouldn't even come close.

Pocahontas is either an idiot or a liar.   Or possibly both!     Grin

We already know she's a liar.  She claimed she was part Native American in order to receive special consideration for a teaching position at Harvard University.  It worked like a charm.   She got the position.

Earlier this year, a DNA test proved that had no Native American blood.    She lied on the application.

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775335150/read-elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-pay-for-...
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 1st, 2019 at 4:37pm
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Meanwhile, Republican Party leaders are struggling to come up with a popular alternative plan.

Almost no one on either side ever mentions free market solutions, which are known to work. Probably they are all dumb...

What else could you conclude? That they are evil?
  

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Reply #35 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:36pm
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“If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists.” - Friedrich Hayek
  

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Re: Bernie Sanders' "Medicare For All" Plan May Be Too Costly
Reply #36 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:44pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:36pm:
“If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists.” - Friedrich Hayek


I don't think that's true.  I think socialists just actually believe government should control outcomes, not opportunity and it's just not fair that some people have more money than others just because they work harder and are smarter and more responsible.  They think that we are programmed the way we are.  We would do the same things even if there were no reward for hard work.  It's crap of course.  If I earned the same money as I do now for pumping gas, I'd pump gas.  I damned well better get compensated for all the stress I deal with being in management or I won't do it
  

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Reply #37 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 12:00pm
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Withdrawn with apologies to Skychief.

  

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Re: Bernie Sanders' "Medicare For All" Plan May Be Too Costly
Reply #38 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 12:15pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
People must be provided health care, so costs must be worked out.
Do you think the government should "work out" the cost of health care, or should the individual "work out" the cost?

Oh... you're playing the passive-voice game, right?

Very clever.
  

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