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“Transgenic” Monkeys. Ethical Concerns?
Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:17pm
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So China is added human brain development genes to monkey embryos (don’t ask me to explain the method), in an attempt to make the monkeys more human like for use as research subjects. 

The monkeys are young and with the human brain genes, their brains are developing more slowly, but this is a part of why humans are so much smarter - a gradual development instead of being adult in only a year or so.

How far will this go before we have to consider the question of whether these monkeys have rights.  In fact, there is only one right, from which all other rights spring: the right not be aggressed against.  Being caged, given experimental medical treatments and being dissected for study certainly would count as aggression against a being sentient enough to have rights.

Carl Sagan hinted in one of his books that some chimps who were taught sign language were more human than some humans with mental retardation. 

What if it goes further and the monkeys become smarter than humans in terms of brain power, but are controlled in such a way as to still be servants of humans.  They could be trained for military missions, as security guards, as inspectors of equipment who could be forced to work twelve hour shifts seven days per week.  They could drive vehicles, do house work, tend patients and even teach school. 

Key would be to never allow them to believe that they have any rights. 

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Re: “Transgenic” Monkeys. Ethical Concerns?
Reply #1 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:51pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:17pm:
So China is added human brain development genes to monkey embryos (don’t ask me to explain the method), in an attempt to make the monkeys more human like for use as research subjects. 

The monkeys are young and with the human brain genes, their brains are developing more slowly, but this is a part of why humans are so much smarter - a gradual development instead of being adult in only a year or so.

How far will this go before we have to consider the question of whether these monkeys have rights.  In fact, there is only one right, from which all other rights spring: the right not be aggressed against.  Being caged, given experimental medical treatments and being dissected for study certainly would count as aggression against a being sentient enough to have rights.

Carl Sagan hinted in one of his books that some chimps who were taught sign language were more human than some humans with mental retardation. 

What if it goes further and the monkeys become smarter than humans in terms of brain power, but are controlled in such a way as to still be servants of humans.  They could be trained for military missions, as security guards, as inspectors of equipment who could be forced to work twelve hour shifts seven days per week.  They could drive vehicles, do house work, tend patients and even teach school. 

Key would be to never allow them to believe that they have any rights. 

Thoughts?

If they become rational, I think we should treat them as adults, but the Chinese won't... The Chinese don't even treat their own subjects as adults. Cry
  

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