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Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Jun 3rd, 2019 at 6:45pm
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I never knew this existed.  It was proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly in Paris on December 10th, 1948.

It is alarmingly socialist in scope, which explains the heavy slant towards socialism in UK and Europe.

Here are some of the scarier ones;

Article 17.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property. [so he CAN be deprived of property so long as it isnt arbitrary??]

Article 22.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security.  [WUT???    Shocked]

Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services.  [Ummm...  WUT??]

(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance.  [Who shall pay for this "care" ??]


Article 26.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free.    Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all.[Uh oh..  RED lights flashing!!  "Free" education?    puh-leeeze]

Article 28.
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order.

https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

So, whats missing?   Well, for starters,  The right of a person to keep the product of his/her labor. Yep, that one's really important.   They probably omitted that one deliberately.

The right to keep and bear arms is also missing.   Oversight?     Nope.   They knew the only hope for socialist tyranny is an unarmed populace.

The words social and entitlements pop up all over this document.  It's scary.
  
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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #1 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:24pm
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Here's another Declaration. Check out Article III-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citize...

I'll stick with our Declaration of Independence as the best ever.

In case you didn't know, The Declaration of the Rights of Man led directly to the terror, anarchy and the despotism of Napoleon.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights isn't better... The Soviet Union had a list of rights it purportedly guaranteed too...

Edit: It's easier to just declare that the government is obligated to make sure everybody is safe and happy and has everything they need, without discrimination or favoritism...
  

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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #2 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:27pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 6:45pm:
The words social and entitlements pop up all over this document.  It's scary.
Yep, and it's also scary that our government has been in the UN since its inception. In fact, I think our CIA had a lot to do with setting it up... Probably I should move that comment to the conspiracy theory thread.
  

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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #3 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:54pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:27pm:
Yep, and it's also scary that our government has been in the UN since its inception. In fact, I think our CIA had a lot to do with setting it up... Probably I should move that comment to the conspiracy theory thread.

As you know, The UN is a post-war version of the League Of Nations (LN), a Frankenstein monster masterminded by progressive Woodrow Wilson. 

Ironically, the US never joined it!!    Grin   Grin   Grin
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:59pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 7:54pm:
As you know, The UN is a post-war version of the League Of Nations (LN), a Frankenstein monster masterminded by progressive Woodrow Wilson. 

Ironically, the US never joined it!!    Grin   Grin   Grin
Right, but the U.S. did create the UN, or at least our government was instrumental in creating it. It still astounds me that a third world nation like Russia was allowed to take the Soviet Union's seat on the "Security Council" and has a veto. Cheesy

Come to think of it, why should France qualify? Or Great Britain?

The entire UN organization was bad from the beginning and has only gotten worse. Probably it could be improved by giving the EU government control of the UN? Or maybe let the Organization of African Unity take over... I'd oppose giving control of the UN to the OAS though...
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm
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As ridiculous as all of that is, the biggest red flag is the word universal.

Some people have rights. Some (like myself) don't. That's a fact.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #6 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:10pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm:
As ridiculous as all of that is, the biggest red flag is the word universal.
   +1  Smiley

The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm:
Some people have rights. Some (like myself) don't. That's a fact.
You have the same natural rights as anyone.  For some reason (unknown to me) you won't assert them.
  
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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #7 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:21pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:10pm:
You have the same natural rights as anyone.  For some reason (unknown to me) you won't assert them.


If I had rights, of course I would assert them.

I need evidence if you say I have something.

I have evidence that libertarians have rights. I have evidence that minorities have rights. I have zero evidence that I have rights.

The rights those Leftists have constructed logically cannot be universal. For some people to have free food, others must provide the food. Those others cannot then have free food (if... if you believe in math and thermodynamics, anyway). Same goes for medical care or whatever else you want free of charge.

Libertarian rights are no different. For some people to have it all, others must sacrifice. The usual way this happens is to define risk as aggression, but only selectively.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #8 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 7:16am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm:
As ridiculous as all of that is, the biggest red flag is the word universal.

Some people have rights. Some (like myself) don't. That's a fact.


There's a dog next door who just whines all day when his master is at work.  If dogs could type, I would swear it was you
  

Contest winner:  I predicted Kaz' meltdown
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Re: Universal Declaration Of Human Rights
Reply #9 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 8:09am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm:
As ridiculous as all of that is, the biggest red flag is the word universal.

You can blame authoritarian leftists for making the term "universal" into a nasty red flag word. Angry

"I dream of universal peace" is a wonderful sentiment and a good goal. So is hoping that rights would be universally respected and protected.

It's when the authoritarian leftists connected the term to government that people turned against it. "Let's have a universal government" is a gigantic red flag.
  

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