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Re: It's the Anniversary of D-Day. So, What's to Celbrate?
Reply #30 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:56pm
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:26pm:
Nobody loves to daydream about the morality of war more than a chickenhawk.
I suppose...

I liken a just war to violence in self defense. There are just uses of violence.
  

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Reply #31 - Jun 11th, 2019 at 10:54am
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Jeff wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:56pm:
I liken a just war to violence in self defense. There are just uses of violence.


I did that and you refuted me, remember?

I said the Nazis justly invaded France. (I was not talking about Poland. I was not even talking about Austria. Just France.)

The Treaty of Versailles did cause people to starve.

You said find diplomatic solutions. That was kinda hard when the whole world was against the Germans.

Sometimes, you can't self-defend without causing more violence. The rest of my race would probably say: Then, don't. You can't add violence and get less violence.

And they're right. However, I don't think adding violence is the only thing that causes violence. The idea that you can't self-defend is probably a cause of violence, too.

Maybe I shouldn't have put it so strongly as that Pacifism is a disease, itself causing violence to other pacifists.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: It's the Anniversary of D-Day. So, What's to Celbrate?
Reply #32 - Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 10:54am:
I did that and you refuted me, remember?

I said the Nazis justly invaded France.
Let's see, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands... And then France.

Obviously, Hitler was after more than just restitution...



  

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