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Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:22pm
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Alabama Governor Kay Ivey signed a bill into law last night that requires offenders convicted of sex crimes with children younger than 13 to be chemically castrated before their release.   Shocked


“If they’re going to mark these children for life, they need to be marked for life... My preference would be if someone does a small infant child like that, they need to die.” - Rep. Steve Hurst

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alabama-approves-chemical-castration-for-child-sex...

Castration is cruel and unusual punishment.  There is Constitutional Law which prohibits this. (Amendment VIII)

Why won't SCOTUS step in and put a stop to this madness?

Is this procedure reversible?
  
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:22pm:
Alabama Governor Kay Ivey signed a bill into law last night that requires offenders convicted of sex crimes with children younger than 13 to be chemically castrated before their release.   Shocked


“If they’re going to mark these children for life, they need to be marked for life... My preference would be if someone does a small infant child like that, they need to die.” - Rep. Steve Hurst

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alabama-approves-chemical-castration-for-child-sex...

Castration is cruel and unusual punishment.  There is Constitutional Law which prohibits this. (Amendment VIII)

Why won't SCOTUS step in and put a stop to this madness?

Is this procedure reversible?
Will it prevent pedophiles from sexually abusing children? I think not.

They could make sexual abuse of children a capital crime...
  
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:47pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:22pm:
Castration is cruel and unusual punishment.  There is Constitutional Law which prohibits this. (Amendment VIII)


It sounds like extremely proportional punishment for the crime they committed.  As a libertarian, how can you object to that?
  

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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
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Jeff wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
Will it prevent pedophiles from sexually abusing children? I think not.

They could make sexual abuse of children a capital crime...


You would know
  

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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
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kaz wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
You would know
If I knew, I'd say so.
  
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
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kaz wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:47pm:
It sounds like extremely proportional punishment for the crime they committed.  As a libertarian, how can you object to that?
Sexual abuse of children covers a wide range of acts, some considered much worse than others.

Would castration be a proportional punishment for all of the possible acts classed as sexual abuse?
  
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
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Jeff wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 6:50pm:
Sexual abuse of children covers a wide range of acts, some considered much worse than others.

Would castration be a proportional punishment for all of the possible acts classed as sexual abuse?


I'll leave it up to you.  You would know, Jeff
  

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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:22pm:
Alabama Governor Kay Ivey signed a bill into law last night that requires offenders convicted of sex crimes with children younger than 13 to be chemically castrated before their release.   Shocked


“If they’re going to mark these children for life, they need to be marked for life... My preference would be if someone does a small infant child like that, they need to die.” - Rep. Steve Hurst

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alabama-approves-chemical-castration-for-child-sex...

Castration is cruel and unusual punishment.  There is Constitutional Law which prohibits this. (Amendment VIII)

Why won't SCOTUS step in and put a stop to this madness?

Is this procedure reversible?


I hope not.

It comes down to what I keep trying to get someone else to say in the other thread.

But how about if anyone doesn't like the law, let them move, and in order to give them time to do so, grandfather in the paedophiles who already own property in Alabama, so they won't get the new punishment as long as they continue to own property in that state that they owned before the new punishment came to be.

This means no one who can't take the heat gets screwed out of their house.

But over time, paedophiles will flock out of Alabama, and people who want to live away from them will flock in.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Reply #8 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:58am
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kaz wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:17pm:
I'll leave it up to you.  You would know, Jeff
If I knew that castration was a reasonable punishment for all sex offenders whose offense involves children, I'd say so, but I don't.

My question was directed to the Chief. If you just want to troll, why don't you and the lizard troll each other?
  
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Re: Alabama Approves Chemical Castration For Pedophiles
Reply #9 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 6:44am
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Jeff wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:58am:
My question was directed to the Chief


This is a message board.  If you want to have a personal conversation with the chief, then you need to IM him.

I'm just curious about your view of dealing with pedophiles, you would know
  

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