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Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:36am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
I excluded Marxism since it is not inherently Western, it was created by a Jewish mind and Its effect on Western nations has been well documented.
A "Jewish mind"?

You contend that Marx was not of the West because he had a "Jewish mind"?
  

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Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:41am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
But look at old colonies in Africa,  Nigeria, the Gold Coast in West Africa, and Kenya, Uganda, Tanganyika in East Africa, for example.  After the Western colonizers left...
...communists stirred things up and created Democratic Socialist Republics, which must always have "strong Leaders". It's no surprise the Leaders then drove their countries into war, pogroms and anarchy while they were being looted.
  

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Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:47am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:04am:
Yes, the story goes that LBJ and his wife started the war in Nam to make money off the Bell Helicopter shares.
The U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam before Johnson became president. LBJ escalated it, he didn't start it.

I remember that war quite well, and I've read a few histories of it too. Our political masters intended that we would not win. They prevented our military from winning. The MIC made lots of money (and not just Bell).
  

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Reply #23 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 9:29am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:04am:
Yes, the story goes that LBJ and his wife started the war in Nam to make money off the Bell Helicopter shares.  Vietnam as you know, was a helicopter war.
Damn..  I had never connected those dots.

yamcha wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:04am:
It's funny that you should mention the Swiss. . . .I thought the place was so damn nice until one time while stuck at a broken crosswalk, I couldn't understand why all the folks waiting next to me didn't just simply cross the street after 10 minutes without a single car in sight!
Funny anecdote.....  Smiley
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 10:02am
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 9:29am:
Damn..  I had never connected those dots.
Vietnam was our first war where helicopters were used extensively, but there were also a lot of B-52s dropping lots of dumb bombs and lots of foot soldiers toting rifles and lots of fighter jets and ground attack airplanes using rockets and bombs and napalm and conventional guns and spreading defoliants.

The entire MIC was making lots of money. Ships were also involved, including aircraft carriers. Lots of military trucks were there too. DC-3s were even fitted out as gunships, some with Gatling guns, some with 105mm cannons. River patrol boats had a role... Everybody got in on it, Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, even our Coast Guard..
  

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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:18am
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Jeff wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 10:02am:
The entire MIC was making lots of money. Ships were also involved, including aircraft carriers. Lots of military trucks were there too. DC-3s were even fitted out as gunships, some with Gatling guns, some with 105mm cannons. River patrol boats had a role... Everybody got in on it, Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, even our Coast Guard..
Do you think the US would have been caught in the Vietnam debacle if only Property Owners could vote?
  
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Reply #26 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:19pm
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If land(s) , of property owner(s) , are devastated by natural disaster(s) or by violent extremism(s) , then what happens to voting rights of said property owner(s) ?

What happens if one or more property owners sell small amounts of her or his or their land(s) for more property owner(s) to own for more votes for specific candidate(s) to be elected or specific legislation(s) to become law or not?

Just have any people(s) or person(s) , that want to become registered to vote, first electronically type the entire Constitution and all Amendments of it as a prerequisite to become registered to vote.
  
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Reply #27 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:56pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:19pm:
If land(s) , of property owner(s) , are devastated by natural disaster(s) or by violent extremism(s) , then what happens to voting rights of said property owner(s) ?

What happens if one or more property owners sell small amounts of her or his or their land(s) for more property owner(s) to own for more votes for specific candidate(s) to be elected or specific legislation(s) to become law or not?

Just have any people(s) or person(s) , that want to become registered to vote, first electronically type the entire Constitution and all Amendments of it as a prerequisite to become registered to vote.
And be a Citizen, at the least. Smiley

Lots of foreign nationals own property/land in the U.S.
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 4:12pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:19pm:
Just have any people(s) or person(s) , that want to become registered to vote, first electronically type the entire Constitution and all Amendments of it as a prerequisite to become registered to vote.

That would eliminate too many people.   

Heck, it would even eliminate ME, and I'm in the top 5% of intelligent voters!   Embarrassed

Very few people could "type the entire Constitution and all Amendments".    I'm sure I couldn't.

A good policy would be to allow only property owners to vote in local and State elections.

And also my Voter Proficiency Exam should apply to all eligible property owner votes.  That will screen out "bad" votes.

Let's face it, even some property owners are clueless.    Grin
  
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Reply #29 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 4:57pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 4:12pm:
That would eliminate too many people.   

How many people are really involved in choosing TwoParty candidates?

I think, to save taxpayers money and meake things more efficient, that only twelve people should be allowed to vote, and those twelve should be chosen at random from the roles of Citizens who have registered to vote, and they should be randomly chosen by a panel of twelve Citizens registered to vote who are registered Libertarians. (That eliminates me... Smiley Smiley Smiley).

A simple majority would then elect one of the two TwoParty candidates,  or whatever write-in got the most votes.

How could we do worse?
  

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