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What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
Jul 10th, 2019 at 4:45pm
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This mainly applies to public schools in Texas. 

They learn English, at great expense to the children of taxpayers who have paid for years so their children can be educated.  While learning English, they learn math, science, social studies, a fine art like choir, band or theater and they learn how to socialize with immigrant and non-immigrant peers.

But, mainly, they learn the lesson being taught to all public school kids:  that honest labor is beneath them and that every Texan - regardless of birthplace - can and should go to college. 

Their parents may be landscape workers hoping for their own truck someday, and table bussers who make tamales on the side for extra money, but they are told that they will be scientists if they are boys and scientist/pilots who become astronauts if they are girls.   

Their parents may someday pool their earnings to open a tamale restaurant (with a well taken care of lawn) but they will disdain to work in it. 

Problem with this is where do we get the next generation of manuel laborers?  Since children of immigrants thin "Manuel Labor" is the president of their parents' old country, they will not do it.  So a new generation must be imported and our politicians must pretend to be outraged by it. 

I haven't heard anyone singing the praises of public school lately, so maybe it's finally sinking in.

EDIT:  Spoke too soon.  Jeff is back on the public school bandwagon again.


  
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Re: What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
Reply #1 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:12pm
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 4:45pm:
EDIT:  Spoke too soon.  Jeff is back on the public school bandwagon again.
I still think it's a good idea to make sure every child has a chance to get a basic education if that's what you mean...

Are you arguing again for local funding and local control of local schools? Good for you! Kiss Kiss Kiss
  

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Jeff wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:12pm:
I still think it's a good idea to make sure every child has a chance to get a basic education if that's what you mean...

Are you arguing again for local funding and local control of local schools? Good for you! Kiss Kiss Kiss


Local is good, so long as you don't mean "local funding and control" as a euphemism for taxing and regulating.  Do you?

But a national school system or even an international schools system could also provide a high quality education for low prices.  Look at Coca-cola, the best soft drink in the world and no more expensive than Pepsi.   

Why do you think that the free market is best for everything unless it is rilly, rilly important like education?  Should you let incompetent government do the unimportant stuff?

  
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
Local is good, so long as you don't mean "local funding and control" as a euphemism for taxing and regulating.  Do you?
No euphemism needed, I've been consistently talking about local communities allowing property taxes to be spent to create and support local schools controlled by local people...

Are you thinking "controlled" is a euphemism for "regulated"? Grin Grin Grin
  

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Re: What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
Reply #4 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:46pm
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
But a national school system or even an international schools system could also provide a high quality education for low prices
Socialism works well? Is that your contention? DoE bureaucrats know best for your school and your children? And they will make it all efficient and affordable? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  

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Re: What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 4:45pm:
EDIT:  Spoke too soon.  Jeff is back on the public school bandwagon again.
Wait. . .

So Jeff wants the US government to forcibly take MY MONEY in order to educate Illegal alien children from a different country?

What kind of redistributionist nonsense is that??   Angry
  
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Jeff wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
No euphemism needed, I've been consistently talking about local communities allowing property taxes to be spent to create and support local schools controlled by local people...

Are you thinking "controlled" is a euphemism for "regulated"? Grin Grin Grin


Are you saying that local communities build would build schools with tax money but would not regulate them?  They would just let the teachers do whatever they want?

  
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Jeff wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Socialism works well? Is that your contention? DoE bureaucrats know best for your school and your children? And they will make it all efficient and affordable? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Read the rest of the statement.

  
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Re: What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
Wait. . .

So Jeff wants the US government to forcibly take MY MONEY in order to educate Illegal alien children from a different country?


Yes, except that he does not understand that taxing means the same as taking your money.

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What kind of redistributionist nonsense is that??   Angry


The kind that is preached by a person who was never able to take care of himself without the "generosity" of a thieving government.


  
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Re: What Illegal Alien Kids are Taught in Public School
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
Wait. . .

So Jeff wants the US government to forcibly take MY MONEY in order to educate Illegal alien children from a different country?

No, I don't.

I thought you were a "critical thinker" Chief...

Why do you sound like a stupid butthead lately?
  

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