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None of it would exist without the White man. Sorry for you, your kind
Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm
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None of the ideas here would have any worth without the White man to execute it and maintain them.  Everyone here besides me is probably White so I believe you all will understand what I mean intrinsically.

Whites were involved in slavery but were also the ones who abolished slavery.  Whites invented democracy and were also the first to allow minorities and women to vote.  What is it inherently about the white people that allows Western Civilization to be so great?

Whites are highly individualistic, generally lacking the rigid traditional uniformity of Asians and the peer-pressured conformity of Blacks.

Whites seek self-improvement, viewing learning as a life-long process rather than a preparation for a lucrative career in youth followed by reverence as a sage thereafter (assuming learning is considered relevant at all in the non-White culture in question).

Whites are strongly driven by an internal sense of conscience and fairness, which has been exploited as a weakness by non-Whites when Whites let that instinct override their rational objectivity.

Whites have a strong instinct for altruism even when it is not in their own best interest. This, too, is exploited by non-Whites, who in general would certainly never ignore their own interest in matters greatly impacting their own well-being.

Whites have a powerful sense of responsibility and are willing to admit failing and guilt both individually and culturally, whereas non-Whites who will ever admit culpability or fault are exceedingly rare. One would be hard-pressed to find a non-White nation that would engage in self-deprecation as White nations so often do.

Whites have done more than any other race to attempt to elevate society in general: Abolition of slavery, women’s rights, children’s rights, and social policies to decrease violence rates are all efforts pioneered by the White race.

Whites love animals and nature. No other race has ever considered the notion of animal welfare and animal rights as Whites have, even setting aside the extremes to which these ideas are sometimes taken. Whites fill their cities with trees, reserve natural regions for future generations, and show environmentalist concerns even when not liberal in ideology.

Whites tend toward a diplomatic compromise when encountering behaviors of which they do not approve in others. Blacks will typically become loudly aggressive when offended by a behavior, while Asians in the same situation usually won't say anything, even going so far as to dishonestly deny being offended, but will try to avoid the perpetrator at any cost thereafter.

Cheating is not considered a valid method of achieving success in White cultures. Many other cultures—Middle Eastern and East Asian (with the exception of the Japs), for example—tend to view cheating as a perfectly acceptable means of succeeding as long as one is never caught doing it.

Whites are extremely curious, desiring new knowledge and genuine truth, driven to explore everything, everywhere, and to establish quality in all their creations and ideas. It is certainly no coincidence that Whites were the first race to reach space, to explore the depths of the ocean, to travel the entire globe, to invent the microscope and telescope, to split the atom, and realize earth’s true place in the grandeur of the universe.

Whites like to break new ground in art forms just like they seek to explore new realms and push their frontiers in terms of technological achievement. Other cultures show a much slower rate of artistic evolution than Whites do, practicing the same musical forms for decades or centuries with very little exploratory change.

Whites are less faddish than Blacks are, going through phases as other cultures do, but moving on again quickly and restraining the extent of the fad with practical limitations. For example, Whites, in general, consider saggy pants absurd as such a thing serves no useful purpose, inhibits movement, and is not aesthetically appealing. White art forms repeatedly circle around to the pragmatic, and to the most enduring forms of beauty yet found.

White religions presuppose that the evil are punished and the good are rewarded. This notion is found in virtually every White-originated religion including those of the ancient Middle East. Non-White religions, like Shintoism, revere ancestors, but at best presume they wander in a dark, empty haze for all eternity regardless of whether they cheated or where honest, succeeded in life or failed.

So ubiquitous is the White instinct for ultimate fairness, judged objectively, that even opponents of traditional religions tend to hold beliefs (like social equality and nurture over nature) that still attempt to assign ultimate fairness to the workings of the universe.

I am American and a native Californian and over the last few decades I see nothing but minorities coming in and weakening Western Civilization and as the White peoples in America and Europe become a minority so too shall go Western Civilization.

Not only will there never be a Libertarian state, but there also won't even be liberty or democracy in the future.  Welcome to our future's end.  What is there left to talk about?
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Re: None of it would exist without the white man. Sorry for you, your kind
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:53pm
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yamcha wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:
Cheating is not considered a valid method of achieving success in White cultures. Many other cultures—Middle Eastern and East Asian, for example—tend to view cheating as a perfectly acceptable means of succeeding as long as one is never caught doing it.


Except white libertarian cultures. Only aggression is wrong. Lie and cheat to get ahead, just don't commit fraud, and good luck getting anyone to pin down what should and should not be considered fraud.

yamcha wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:
So ubiquitous is the White instinct for ultimate fairness, judged objectively, that even opponents of traditional religions tend to hold beliefs (like social equality and nurture over nature) that still attempt to assign ultimate fairness to the workings of the universe.


..Again, except libertarians. All libertarians I know agree that fairness is not a goal worth pursuing.

Most of the rest is pretty spot-on, unfortunately.

The one remaining point I have is that if you're right about all this (which I assume you think you are even though it's more likely you're just trolling) then you can't hold up out-group altruism as a virtue.

You can't complain about the destruction and blame it on the exploitation of others when you admit that your favoured group has the trait that invites the exploitation.

I mean, look at that hemophiliac bleeding out from mosquito bites. He clearly has the best trait! If only if it weren't for those damn mosquitoes exploiting it...
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: None of it would exist without the White man. Sorry for you, your kind
Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 10:08pm
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I added with the exception of the Japs.

Dude, stop reacting to me!  I understand you better with another glance.  You aren't so much a sociopath as you are a nerd gaming type.  I am willing to bet that you are one of those role-playing gaming guys.  That is why you gave such a dumb and crazy example of the Golden Rule in practice.  If someone smacks you then there is no more Golden Rule or any rule, all logic out the door!  There is no more thinking, just reacting.  Either you fight back, defend yourself, freeze or run. 

What logic you gave as an example of the Golden Rule in practice is exactly what two nerd gamer guys would do while deciding their next move for the fantasy dragons and stuff.

No wonder you keep coming back with your no rights and tigers and dragons.

And now you want to use what I said to oppose Libertarians again???  Come on not again!

Stop rolling the dice with the magical lead figures and get a life man!  Get out there and live a bit, please, this is not Final Fantasy here!
  
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:53pm:
..Again, except libertarians. All libertarians I know agree that fairness is not a goal worth pursuing. . .

I agree with this.    Fairness is an unattainable goal.    What some might call a 'fools's errand'.

You can't have fairness unless you have true equality - where each person has an identical opportunity and circumstance as everybody else.    Libertarians understand that's not even remotely possible.
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:10pm:
You can't have fairness unless you have true equality - where each person has an identical opportunity and circumstance as everybody else.    Libertarians understand that's not even remotely possible.   


But where is the argument here Chief?  Equality of opportunity under the law can be achieved and I think it is already.  Equality of outcome is for socialists.  (Affirmative Action, Fair Housing Act, No Child Left Behind.)

But I am not talking about fairness.  I am talking about none of the extinction of Western Civilization.  Chief, all of your immigration proposals only work if Whites are still the majority.  No one would even want to come to America or Europe if it wasn't for the White mans values and the white man upholding those values.  California used to belong to the mestizos and they didn't even want it and didn't care to do shit with it but why do they want it so badly now?
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:11am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:27pm:
Equality of opportunity under the law can be achieved and I think it is already. 

Clearly, we have different ideas of what constitutes equality.

O.J. Simson brutally murdered his ex wife and her pal Ron Goldman.  His attack was so vicious, he nearly decapitated both of them.   Had you or I committed those murders, we'd STILL be in prison.

But the star-struck jury acquitted O.J. of all charges.   He walked out of that courtroom a free man.   That is NOT equality under the Law.

yamcha wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:27pm:
  Chief, all of your immigration proposals only work if Whites are still the majority. 

My only immigration proposal is Guest Visas

The immigrant pays $500 and gets a Guest Visa good for 12 months.   The 'Guest' can come & go as he/she pleases for 12 months.  At the end of 1 year,  he/she has a choice:

1) self-deport

2) renew the Guest Visa

So simple.   It doesn't matter if whites are the majority or not.  Perhaps you are confusing my Guest Visa plan with something else?
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:21am
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Chief, O.J. Didn't not kill anyone.  He was declared innocent and acquitted by a jury.  But as I said, equality of opportunity under the law and not equality of outcome.  Why shouldn't a smart lawyer do a better job than a dumb lawyer when given the same opportunity?  So where is the inequality?  The second time O.J. got in trouble there was substantial evidence and that is why he is in jail now and for much longer than he should be.

Hey, why in the hell would you of all people want equality anyways, especially equality of outcome?  Equality is only something that is forced to exist under the law.  Look at the Mexicans you hate so much.  Would you want the law to force us all down to the lowest common denominator so we can be equally filthy, uneducated, unhealthy and hopeless as the rest of California?

But this thread is not about fairness or Libertarianism.  None of those Western ideas will exist soon if the demographics and cultural trend keeps moving in the same direction.  And there will be no need for guest visas since there will be no borders if the White man doesn't erect and maintain them.  So how can he put up a wall to keep minorities out if he can't even keep himself from becoming a minority.  You think when the mestizo take over by default that they will put up a wall to keep other mestizos out?  Where will your grand kids live?
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yamcha wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:21am:
And there will be no need for guest visas since there will be no borders if the White man doesn't erect and maintain them.

There simply isn't enough funding to build and maintain 1933 miles of walls/fencing/barricades.

That's what the Guest Visa plan is for - to raise funds for the wall without burdening taxpayers. . .

yamcha wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Not only will there never be a Libertarian state, but there also won't even be liberty or democracy in the future.  Welcome to our future's end. 
I agree with you on this, but its not immigrants who are destroying the country - it's the progressives.   They've been slowly taking away our freedoms and liberties since 1903.

yamcha wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:21am:
  What is there left to talk about?

There's always SeaSteading. . . .   

There's a good chance a libertarian based community will be established in international waters - far away from the tax-n-redistribute progressives.

NO TAXATION AND NO PROGRESSIVES ALLOWED!!!    Smiley Smiley

Woohooo!! Smiley
  

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God dammit chief!  You keep modifying your post!  Guest visa plan is fine but illegal mestizos don't even want visas for free.  They want the glorious wasteland that the White man has shaped into paradise on Earth.  Just like in South Africa.  Nobody from the 3rd wants visas since it doesn't grant citizenship.  Right now the best thing about illegal immigration is that it is illegal.  We get cheap labor and illegals are not entitled to any benefits.  However, if this changes and they get all the welfare, medical benefits and get to vote then they clearly become the first class citizens and also won't have to pay tax.  Chief, just wait a few years and give up your nationality and come back here through Tijuana.  Your dream of no taxes will come true!

The progressives you are right.  And what are the fuking progressives using?  Anti-Western-Civilization propaganda tactics.

Whites are their own biggest enemies right now.  Half of them are fighting for non-White domination and the other half are bowing down and eating it.

SeaSteading?  Are you talking about this shit: https://www.seasteading.org/ ?

This is fantasy and it is only at the survey stage.  If you proposition a survey or poll or even proposition asking people if they want to fly like a bird you will get a 99% yes rate.  And besides, building a city around natural resources is already expensive enough so just imagine the cost of building one out at sea with its own eco-system and covering it with a glass dome! You want Atlantis back chief?

Once again, this is not about fairness or Libertarian right and wrongs.  You cannot have any of these ideals without having the people who value such ideals living.
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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 1:04am
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yamcha wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:55am:
Guest visa plan is fine but illegal mestizos don't even want visas for free.  They want the glorious wasteland that the White man has shaped into paradise on Earth.  Just like in South Africa.  Nobody from the 3rd wants visas.

I think if the meztizos have a choice between paying a coyote $2000 to get in the US,  and paying $500 for a Guest Visa to get them in the US, they'll choose the Guest Visa.

That would be the wisest choice.
  

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