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A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:42pm
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He calls it the "border crises," but I told him that in my opinion, a crises means you can still avert the disaster.  Now we need to figure out how to recover from this disaster.

He was surprised because he thinks libertarians are just conservatives who don't care that much about banning marijuana and are mad at the GOP.  I asked him whether he supported fully open borders or strictly controlled borders with an effective barriers and effective punishment for breaching them and he said neither.   I asked if he thought the answer was between the two and he said yes.  I ask him what that would look like and he was stumped.

Anyway, right now we can't do anything one way or another until we recover from the disaster.  People are talking about how the new season of "Orange is the New Black" is "real," because it shows how asylum seeker are being treated in detention centers.  It isn't and it doesn't.  The conditions depicted on that show are nowhere near as harsh as the conditions in real life.  The fictitious detention center is a Norwegian prison compared to the actual detention centers.  If they showed conditions in real life, people could not watch it and certainly not for entertainment. 

Why else did the border patrol forbid cameras even when congressional representatives visited the sites?

  
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #1 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:52pm
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We could end all this "border disaster" nonsense once and for all with my Guest Visa program.

PM me for details!
  
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #2 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:07pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:52pm:
We could end all this "border disaster" nonsense once and for all with my Guest Visa program.

PM me for details!


You mean Guest Visa©program? haha!
  
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 1:04am
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yamcha wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:07pm:
You mean Guest Visa©program? haha!

It solves a lot of problems. 

The powers that be ignore me for now. 

Eventually, they will become enlightened, and adopt my Guest Visa© plan.

Good for taxpayers.  and good for guests.

Everyone's a winner with the Guest Visa© plan!    Smiley   Smiley

Naturally, I will claim credit.    Well earned, I should say!   Smiley
  
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:41am
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Little Biq Man wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
He calls it the "border crises," but I told him that in my opinion, a crises means you can still avert the disaster.
Better immigration laws are needed, but it's neither a crises nor a disaster.

The welfare state is a disaster...
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:31am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:41am:
The welfare state is a disaster...


Why? It's only about 1% stolen money they're giving out. The welfare state is financed almost entirely by freshly printed money.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:31am:
Why? It's only about 1% stolen money they're giving out. The welfare state is financed almost entirely by freshly printed money.

It's still a disaster.  As they print more money to pay for welfare, the increased supply of money causes inflation, which negatively impacts the purchasing power of the US dollar.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:24am
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:04am:
It's still a disaster.  As they print more money to pay for welfare, the increased supply of money causes inflation, which negatively impacts the purchasing power of the US dollar.


Correct but I don't see how it's aggression.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #8 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:31am:
Why? It's only about 1% stolen money they're giving out. The welfare state is financed almost entirely by freshly printed money.
It's a human disaster because of what it does to families and people in general.

Are you not aware that printing money also leads to disasters?
  

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Re: A Liberal Friends Confronted me About the Border Disaster
Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:15pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:24am:
Correct but I don't see how it's aggression.
Purposely decreasing the value of my money? That's theft.

Printing lots of money so the 'elites' can use it to buy up real assets while working people struggle to pay off the loans they took out to try to buy real assets? That's class warfare, which is certainly aggression.
  

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