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Re: Problems With Red Flag Laws And The 4th Amendment
Reply #20 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:22am
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Another good sense article that relates:

https://reason.com/2019/08/05/does-common-sense-gun-safety-legislation-make-sens...

From the article"

"Yet it hardly seems strange to point out that the ability to fire more than 10 rounds without switching magazines can be important in self-defense—a point that current and retired police officers make every time they demand exemptions from laws like California's. Indeed, the case for banning "large capacity" magazines hinges on the same observation as the case against banning them: A few seconds can be the difference between life and death."
  

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Reply #21 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:08am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:24am:
Back to red flag laws:

https://reason.com/2019/08/06/to-stop-mass-shooters-trump-says-we-should-make-in...

From the article:

"We should not lose sight of that fact that mass murder is volitional behavior, as tempting as it may be to speculate about the killer's motives or mental state."

It's interesting that nobody is talking about the motives of the Dayton, Ohio mass murderer.

I officially predict that the Dayton mass-murderer is Antifa or socialist/Demorat or has an anti-Trump agenda.

When this finally revealed, I predict that Cory Booker will blame the Dayton mass-shooting on Trump.
  
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Reply #22 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:15am
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:08am:
It's interesting that nobody is talking about the motives of the Dayton, Ohio mass murderer.

I officially predict that the Dayton mass-murderer is Antifa or socialist/Demorat or has an anti-Trump agenda.

When this finally revealed, I predict that Cory Booker will blame the Dayton mass-shooting on Trump.


Oh they'd be all over it if they could use it to smear the Right.

Since they're not all over it, they can't use it to smear the Right.

It's a valid syllogism you got there.

If A, then B.
Not-B.
Therefore not-A.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #23 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:40pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:15am:
It's a valid syllogism you got there.

If A, then B.
Not-B.
Therefore not-A.

Trump said critics of his response to the shootings were “political people…trying to make points.”

Validating the president's allegation,  Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley said she plans to greet Trump in her official role as mayor, but plans to tell him “how unhelpful he’s been on this.”

As painful as it is to admit, Trump is absolutely right about the left's blind hatred for him.

No matter what Trump says or does, it will always be wrong.

In March, Cory Booker said  "President Trump must condemn white supremacy."

Two days ago (after Trump DID publicly condemn white supremacy), Booker said:   "I do not welcome President Trump condemning white supremacy."

And now everyone can plainly see what is going on here . . .
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:23pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:15am:
Oh they'd be all over it if they could use it to smear the Right.

Since they're not all over it, they can't use it to smear the Right.

It's a valid syllogism you got there.

If A, then B.
Not-B.
Therefore not-A.
"Progressives" have done it to themselves. If nobody in the (not) mainstream media mentions a mass murderer's ideology or political affiliation, everybody just assumes it was another "progressive" Democrat/Democratic Socialist (the Youth arm of which is ANTIFA, which is an acronym for anarcho-communist.)

When nobody mentions regimens of psychoactive drugs prescribed for the shooter as a child, I just assume he was drugged to the gills from the age of six or seven on...
  

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Reply #25 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:25pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:40pm:
Trump said critics of his response to the shootings were “political people…trying to make points.”

Validating the president's allegation,  Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley said she plans to greet Trump in her official role as mayor, but plans to tell him “how unhelpful he’s been on this.”

As painful as it is to admit, Trump is absolutely right about the left's blind hatred for him.

No matter what Trump says or does, it will always be wrong.

In March, Cory Booker said  "President Trump must condemn white supremacy."

Two days ago (after Trump DID publicly condemn white supremacy), Booker said:   "I do not welcome President Trump condemning white supremacy."

And now everyone can plainly see what is going on here . . .
yes, it's unfair of them to say Trump is wrong on the occasions when he is not.  He is wrong often enough on extremely important issues that everyone should just concentrate on those.
  

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Reply #26 - Aug 8th, 2019 at 12:21pm
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Please, I urge all libertarians and pseudo-libertarians to fill this out and send.  Based on your zip code, your Senators will be automatically selected.   It's so easy.     Get involved!!    Say NO! to these gun-grabbing lawmakers!!   Say NO! to more unconstitutional infringements on our natural right to keep and bear arms.



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Please add your name to our pre-written letter that will go to EVERY SINGLE Senate Republican telling them to VOTE NO on this bill. Let’s flood their inboxes so that our letters are the only thing they see.


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Reply #27 - Aug 8th, 2019 at 12:25pm
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Done.  I registered a few democrat friends too.
  
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yamcha wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
Done.  I registered a few democrat friends too.

ha hah..  Thanks!    Smiley     Smiley
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:43am
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Chief,

Do you recommend using pepper spray if 2 or 3 armed robbers break into my house in the middle of the night?  And do you think it is ok if I damage my walls and furniture a little bit in order to protect myself and my loved ones from the guys coming in trying to kill us?

LOLLLLLL
  
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