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Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart (Read 694 times)

SkyChief Libertarian Freedom Member Online Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10897 Location: California Coast Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #10 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Jeff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 7:01am: Good point, but it's more a matter of trust than safety. Americans are probably actually safer than they've ever been (unless they live in a "progressive" ghetto), but have been whipped up into a frenzy of fear and mistrust by our governments. The irony is that the government is working hard to take away liberties and freedom from the people, meanwhile the people trust the government unconditionally - they think the government "cares" about them!


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Jeff Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 45089 Location: USA Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #11 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	SkyChief wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:37am: The irony is that the government is working hard to take away liberties and freedom from the people, meanwhile the people trust the government unconditionally - they think the government "cares" about them! A minority of people think the government is concerned about them, but only a few totally ignorant morons trust the government unconditionally... Maybe some very young children too.

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The Opposition Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10468 Joined: Apr 30^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #12 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	SkyChief wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:37am: The irony is that the government is working hard to take away liberties and freedom from the people, meanwhile the people trust the government unconditionally - they think the government "cares" about them! They may just care about me as a milk cow (and perhaps a beef cow if times get tough for them) but that's more than any human being cares about me. The government gains because I exist. They would never tell me to commit suicide.

	This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all. -SnarkySack
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SkyChief Libertarian Freedom Member Online Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10897 Location: California Coast Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #13 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 1:03am	Print Post
	The Opposition wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:16pm: They may just care about me as a milk cow (and perhaps a beef cow if times get tough for them) but that's more than any human being cares about me. The government gains because I exist. They would never tell me to commit suicide. Yes, the government cares about you to the extent that they can legally steal your money. Their concern for your well-being ends there. You're content with that, it sounds like. Good for you.


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yamcha Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 644 Location: Southern California Joined: Jul 5^th, 2019	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #14 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 1:09am	Print Post
	The Opposition wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:16pm: They may just care about me as a milk cow (and perhaps a beef cow if times get tough for them) but that's more than any human being cares about me. The government gains because I exist. They would never tell me to commit suicide. I command you in the name of the Lord to stop this victimhood mentality shit.


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Jeff Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 45089 Location: USA Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #15 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 7:19am	Print Post
	The Opposition wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:16pm: They may just care about me as a milk cow (and perhaps a beef cow if times get tough for them) but that's more than any human being cares about me. The government gains because I exist. They would never tell me to commit suicide. It's silly to think of the government having feelings and caring. The laws are written and (hopefully) enforced to protect your life and property as well as everyone else's. The law cares about you exactly as much as it cares about me. And everybody else.

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SkyChief Libertarian Freedom Member Online Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10897 Location: California Coast Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #16 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:20am	Print Post
	Jeff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 7:19am: The law cares about you exactly as much as it cares about me. And everybody else. And then you woke up.


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The Opposition Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10468 Joined: Apr 30^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #17 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:25am	Print Post
	SkyChief wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 1:03am: Yes, the government cares about you to the extent that they can legally steal your money. Their concern for your well-being ends there. You're content with that, it sounds like. Good for you. If there's anything better than that, I haven't seen it. But no, I'm not content with that. I know that in order to provide this small level of care that I'm immensely grateful for, they're stealing from you (and everyone else) and that's not right. If it was just me, I'd give them my last dime and starve happy. But it's not just me. Those who want (and in fact, already have) more rights should have them respected. I will fight for that.

	This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all. -SnarkySack
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SkyChief Libertarian Freedom Member Online Libertarian's Forum Posts: 10897 Location: California Coast Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #18 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:59am	Print Post
	The Opposition wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:25am: Those who want (and in fact, already have) more rights should have them respected. I will fight for that. Rights must be asserted. If someone doesn't assert their rights, then others rationalize that they don't really want (or value) them, so they feel no shame or guilt in violating them.


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Jeff Libertarian Freedom Member Offline Libertarian's Forum Posts: 45089 Location: USA Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014	Re: Man Arrested for Non-crime - Bearing Arms in a Walmart Reply #19 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	SkyChief wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:20am: And then you woke up. No Chief, the laws are impartial, most of them anyway. Most of the inequities are caused by unequal application of the law, and people do that... Often we know exactly who they are too!

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