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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #10 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:15am
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Jacob wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Government doesn't have the power to dispense rights, only to preserve them.

Respecting the rights of others is the admittance of the contract of consequences, if not the the social contract.

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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:19am
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Jacob wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Suing is not going to stop him from killing willy nilly at all.


I don't think so either.

Jacob wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:
I would definitely kill him in self defense, but if he can be captured, why not make him serve life in a private prison?


Because I can't afford that. Who's going to pay for this?

Your position is indeed the most libertarian one, however. If I can't pay to put him up at the maximum security Hilton for the rest of his life, tough luck to me, I gotta let him go. And I can't expect the Hilton to make him work for his keep, either. Forced labour is something Rothbard was adamantly against.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:05pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:51am:
So how would you say someone who goes around just killing people willy-nilly can be treated? Rothbard would say sue him and take some money. Most posters here would agree that you can only kill him if he's directly and immediately threatening you.


i dont know who rothbart is lol and idc.

people who kill should be killed I think
  
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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:54pm
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Jacob wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Kiss

I would definitely kill him in self defense, but if he can be captured, why not make him serve life in a private prison?

Suing is not going to stop him from killing willy nilly at all.


Ok, you pick up the bill dude. 
  
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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #14 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:16am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 3:50pm:
Is respecting the rights of others a necessary condition for one's having rights himself?


This is kind of a no brainer. Yes and no.  You don't have to respect the right's of others as long as they respect your rights but then again, YOU are the others.  However, none of this nor the opposite would be possible unless everyone understands and embraces. inequality is all of its beautiful fairness.  Only inequality is fair.
  
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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #15 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:43am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 3:50pm:
Is respecting the rights of others a necessary condition for one's having rights himself?

It can be a necessary condition for being permitted to exercise your rights, in that committing crimes should land you in prison where many of your rights will be abridged or denied.

And of course murdering people can get you executed...

Do you still have rights after you're dead?
  

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Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:44am
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Jacob wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
This reminds me of the Shariah Law stipulation that murder is a dispute.
I'm not familiar with that.
  

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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #17 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:51am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:19am:
Because I can't afford that. Who's going to pay for this?

Your position is indeed the most libertarian one, however. If I can't pay to put him up at the maximum security Hilton for the rest of his life, tough luck to me, I gotta let him go. And I can't expect the Hilton to make him work for his keep, either. Forced labour is something Rothbard was adamantly against.
Is Rothbard your hero because he was an anarchist who tried to pose as a libertarian?

Taxpayers will pay to support a murderer in prison, but why not get some work out of them to ease our burden?

I agree with Rothbard that to force a free individual to labor for you is a form of slavery and is sinful and tyrannical, but convicted murderers are not free persons. They have forfeited their rights to be considered free persons. Treat them humanely, like animals...

After all, they landed in prison by behaving like animals...
  

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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #18 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 8:47pm
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Caucasian-American men deserve reparations also because many Caucasian-American men get discriminated against nowadays because they:

a, are interpreted as potentially about to create event(s) of racism or violence or other crime(s) or are interpreted as more successful than non-Caucasian-American men , and so when said Caucasian-American men are in "Democratic Party" politically boundaried locations, Caucasian-Americans are therefore more likely to be stopped or perhaps be handcuffed by police?

b, lose jobs to non-Caucasian-American men because of affirmative action policies?
  
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Re: Respecting the Rights of Others
Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 3:51am
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You can't respect "the rights" of others since "rights" don't exist.

You can, however, simply respect others by not coercing them, or trying to coerce them.
  
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