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Reply #80 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 5:33pm
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If you listen through Thick as a Brick,the next song, Locomotive Breath is devil music I think...
  

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Reply #81 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:16pm
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About the usage of those 2 atomic bombs: that was very anti-democratic the way one person (Harry S. Truman) could order two superweapons to kill so many hubeings of those two Japanese cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima; total thumbs down to those two events.   Cry Cry
  
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Reply #82 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:53pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
About the usage of those 2 atomic bombs: that was very anti-democratic the way one person (Harry S. Truman) could order two superweapons to kill so many hubeings of those two Japanese cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima; total thumbs down to those two events.   Cry Cry
What was the alternative?
  

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Reply #83 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 9:50pm
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There are no atomic bombs.  Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire-bombed (napalm) like Tokyo.

They say that the radiation from an A-bomb would make any place uninhabitable for hundreds or thousands of years.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt starting in the following weeks and millions of people live in those cities now.  Full of shit.

When I was a kid, they showed A-bomb test footage in history class and I asked how come the trees look like miniature fakes with a gust of dust blown at them?


As with 9/11, foreign and domestic companies came into Hiroshima and Nagasaki the following day after the bombs to clean up all the evidence.  I wonder why they didn't get "nuked" to death.


  
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Reply #84 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 6:52am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
They say that the radiation from an A-bomb would make any place uninhabitable for hundreds or thousands of years.
Who says that?
  

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Reply #85 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 7:21am
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Uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years.  Plutonium has a half-life of 24,100 years.  The atomic bomb that detonated over Hiroshima used Uranium-235, while the Nagasaki bomb had Plutonium-239.  The half-life of U-235 is 700 million years, while that of Pu-239 is 24,000 years.  In other words, once on the ground, they will be there for a very long time. Physically speaking, the most elementary way to measure the effect of radiation is to measure the amount of energy deposited in a given weight of the material. However, the deposition of energy is only one aspect of the potential of radiation to cause biological damage. For context, 400 rads are normally enough to kill 50% of humans. 1000 rads kill pretty much everybody we are told. But there is no evidence of anything.

So how many rads were Hiroshima/Nagasaki atomic bomb victims exposed to? The explosion only lasted some nano-seconds!

The answer is 0!

Because no atomic bombs exploded anywhere!  All bullshit hoax.
  
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Reply #86 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 9:17am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 29th, 2019 at 7:21am:
Uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years.  Plutonium has a half-life of 24,100 years.  The atomic bomb that detonated over Hiroshima used Uranium-235, while the Nagasaki bomb had Plutonium-239.  The half-life of U-235 is 700 million years, while that of Pu-239 is 24,000 years.  In other words, once on the ground, they will be there for a very long time. Physically speaking, the most elementary way to measure the effect of radiation is to measure the amount of energy deposited in a given weight of the material. However, the deposition of energy is only one aspect of the potential of radiation to cause biological damage. For context, 400 rads are normally enough to kill 50% of humans. 1000 rads kill pretty much everybody we are told. But there is no evidence of anything.

Radiation levels drop pretty rapidly after an atomic explosion.
  

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Reply #87 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 11:39am
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Reply #88 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 3:03pm
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The Naval Disarmanent Treaty that then President Warren G. Harding signed, and that caused the USA Navy to be less prepared; and that Treaty, that was signed, probably decades later inadvertently caused President Harry S Truman to think the USA Navy was inferior and couldn't defeat Japan without the use of atomic bombs.  So thumbs down to that "Treaty".
  
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Reply #89 - Sep 29th, 2019 at 3:25pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Sep 29th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
The Naval Disarmanent Treaty that then President Warren G. Harding signed, and that caused the USA Navy to be less prepared; and that Treaty, that was signed, probably decades later inadvertently caused President Harry S Truman to think the USA Navy was inferior and couldn't defeat Japan without the use of atomic bombs.  So thumbs down to that "Treaty".
That's a strange view of history.

By the time the bombs were dropped, Japan had no navy and no merchant marine.

The main driver of U.S. development of atomic bombs was the knowledge that both Germany and Japan were developing atomic bombs.

The decision to drop them was driven by estimates that an invasion of Japan would cost a million U.S. lives and 10-15 million Japanese lives.

I think a blockade would have worked, but there is no telling how many Japanese peasants would have starved before the Warlords gave up... They were pledged to die to the last man.
  

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