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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #50 - Sep 25th, 2019 at 8:08pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 3:45pm:
Such laws would violate our rights, and our government is not allowed to violate our rights. It has a duty to protect them. Smiley


Right, but the SJW Libtards are using this to their advantage by infiltrating and taking over companies and other institutions and then using their positions to censor or fire people who make any offensive speech or speech that dissents from leftist ideology.
  
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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #51 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 7:06am
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N567 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 8:08pm:
Right, but the SJW Libtards are using this to their advantage by infiltrating and taking over companies and other institutions and then using their positions to censor or fire people who make any offensive speech or speech that dissents from leftist ideology.
Right, but the only way to stop private citizens and private companies from exercising their rights is for the government to violate their rights.

We have too much of that already.
  

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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #52 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 10:25am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 7:06am:
Right, but the only way to stop private citizens and private companies from exercising their rights is for the government to violate their rights.

We have too much of that already.


One way to avoid the censorship by private companies is to start your own company or distribute the offensive speech through the internet using your own website and under a pseudonym. I know public utilities like ISPs cannot censor people by denying them service.
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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #53 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 11:30am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 7:06am:
Right, but the only way to stop private citizens and private companies from exercising their rights is for the government to violate their rights.

We have too much of that already.
Exactly.    Smiley
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Reply #54 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 2:54pm
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N567 wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 10:25am:
One way to avoid the censorship by private companies is to start your own company or distribute the offensive speech through the internet using your own website and under a pseudonym. I know public utilities like ISPs cannot censor people by denying them service.
Making ISPs into "public utilities" is a bad idea.
  

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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #55 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 5:26pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:20am:
I think that's BS. As demonstrated in Hong Kong, even people in countries controlled by communists love Liberty.

People in countries controlled by a State religion also love liberty.

You drastically under count libertarians.


I doubt you could properly call these people libertarian. They might be pro-freedom by temperament or personality, but they don't have a clear conceptual way of articulating it. That's why spreading libertarianism is so important, people are inclined to our worldview, they just need to be given a clear and simple way to understand the ideology.
  
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Re: Increasing Censorship by SJWs, Antifa, and the Government
Reply #56 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 5:53pm
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Theyellowking wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 5:26pm:
I doubt you could properly call these people libertarian. They might be pro-freedom by temperament or personality, but they don't have a clear conceptual way of articulating it.
I think they are doing a fine job of articulating what they want. Maybe you are having problems listening.

To put things on a different plane, how good areĀ  "progressives" at articulating what they want in the realm of political economy?

"We want to make everything better" is really lame. Smiley

Edit: Emperor Xi claims to be making everything better, but he doesn't want to talk about it, and he forbids being questioned about how...


  

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Reply #57 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 8:58pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 2:54pm:
Making ISPs into "public utilities" is a bad idea.


I did not mean making ISPs government run, they can still be private but they cannot use denial of service to censor views they don't like.
  
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Reply #58 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 7:43am
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N567 wrote on Sep 26th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
I did not mean making ISPs government run, they can still be private but they cannot use denial of service to censor views they don't like.
Why not?
  

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Reply #59 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 9:16am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 7:43am:
Why not?


If they were allowed to do that, all of the websites that dissent against the left, like this one, would already be shut down because the people who own and visit these sites would have no internet connection.
  
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