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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #100 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 2:53pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
In Andorra, the right to private gun ownership is NOT guaranteed by law.

They have mandatory gun registration in Andorra.

All activities of arms brokers and transfer intermediaries are specifically regulated by law.

Firearm dealers are required to keep a record of each firearm or ammunition purchase, sale or transfer on behalf of a regulating authority.

They're worse than California.
Not much if any, and the taxes are way lower. I don't think their cities are full of people defecating and urinating on the streets and then living in their own waste either...
  

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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #101 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 3:28pm
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Lol of course you got to be rich to be a libertarian you got to be poor to be on welfare.

Who is gonna say no more welfare not people on welfare.

Who is gonna say no more taxes not people who barely pay any.

Who is gonna say no more police not people who cant buy they're own police.

The bigger the libertarian the richer he have to be.
  
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Reply #102 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:08pm
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Industry wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 3:28pm:
The bigger the libertarian the richer he have to be.
Exactly my point.  Liberty comes at a huge cost.  But it's worth it to me.  I want to be among the first to colonize a seastead.
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Reply #103 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:52pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Exactly my point.  Liberty comes at a huge cost.
Lots of people have been, and are, willing to die for it.

I don't think most rich people are that committed...


  

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Reply #104 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 5:27pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
I don't think most rich people are that committed...

Most rich folks tend to lean libertarian - especially when it comes to wealth redistribution. 

Rich people think nothing of contributing thousands of dollars to a candidate who promises tax cuts, but complain bitterly when the pay the exact same amount in income taxes for redistribution to welfare recipients.
  

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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #105 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 6:18pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 5:27pm:
Most rich folks tend to lean libertarian - especially when it comes to wealth redistribution. 

Rich people think nothing of contributing thousands of dollars to a candidate who promises tax cuts, but complain bitterly when the pay the exact same amount in income taxes for redistribution to welfare recipients.
I've only known a handful of rich people, and they weren't anything like what you describe...

I hope people like you describe all go live on seasteads. Smiley
  

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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #106 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:35pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Exactly my point.  Liberty comes at a huge cost.  But it's worth it to me.  I want to be among the first to colonize a seastead.

No, you don't.  Did you make the deposit or contribute in any way for it to get started?
  
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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #107 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:39pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 5:27pm:
Most rich folks tend to lean libertarian - especially when it comes to wealth redistribution. 

Rich people think nothing of contributing thousands of dollars to a candidate who promises tax cuts, but complain bitterly when the pay the exact same amount in income taxes for redistribution to welfare recipients.


This is true.  I hang out with mostly rich people and they usually started off as Republicans and now lean Libertarian.

What is their not to complain about?  If you take money from your wallet and give to whatever cause or charity then I think you are a good guy but if you take money out of my wallet to do it then you need to go to jail.
  
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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #108 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:59pm
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Heres what I would like to know is there anybody rich enough to be a libertarian without having other people to work for them?
  
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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #109 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 6:12pm
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Industry wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
Heres what I would like to know is there anybody rich enough to be a libertarian without having other people to work for them?

I don't think trying to get people to work for you will make you rich, because I doubt anyone will want to work for you.

Working for yourself, and saving and investing what you earn can make you rich... Unexpected circumstances can make you poor. Cry

Trump got a lot of money up front... Is that what you're talking about?
  

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