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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #60 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:43pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:34pm:

You don't know that.  I said that the basic home module will cost $1.4 Mil.  Plus a one-time $20k connect/disconnect fee.  That's pocket money to a homeowner in Irvine or Santa Monica.  But you already knew that.
I wouldn't call it pocket change but yeah, that is about what my house in Irvine is worth.  I bought it back in the late 90s for around 400k if you can believe it.  Nah, I wouldn't call it pocket change.

Whatever.  The point is, the Seastead will bring welcome business wherever it is parked.   
I agree, freetrade.

Sure, but an Island can't move.  A seastead can.  Also, an Island cannot expand with growth.  A Seastaed CAN.
Does it use the power of the tugboat to get around?
  
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Re: Must One be Rich to Be Libertarian?
Reply #61 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:52pm
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yamcha wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:43pm:
Does [the Seastead] use the power of the tugboat to get around?
Yes and no.

The Seastead will be in very deep water. It is at least 12 miles off the coast of some mainland.  It's too deep to drop anchor, so depending on how large the Seastead is, it will have one (or more) propulsion motors to maintain its global position (the motor(s) will only need to overcome the forces of wind and current)

The Seastead motor(s) is not powerful enough to actually transport the seastead structure, so if the seastead needs to be moved any considerable distance, it must be towed.
  
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Reply #62 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 11:19pm
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Check out #1.
  
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Reply #63 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:07am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Anyone can say they are Libertarian and all you have to do to technically be a Libertarian is to go to the Libertarian website and register yourself.  You can even do it from prison.

Look at this website, it only has a handful of active members. If Libertarianism was so attractive shouldn't there be thousands?
Libertarians might be more interested in this forum if more of the conversation was sane and rational and didn't include racism and constant claims that libertarians are evil greedy capitalist individualists who only want to be free so they can screw everybody else.

The title of this absurd thread is an example to my point. Of course being rich is not a necessary prerequisite to being a libertarian. Only an idiot or an ignoramus would think it is, and no, libertarians don't all want to "escape" from society (most want to limit government so they can live in a more free society), and no, you don't have to be an anarchist to be a "real" libertarian", and in fact people who are libertarians of other than the anarchist fringe know that anarchists are a danger to liberty.
  

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Reply #64 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:01am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 11:19pm:


Check out #1.
Yes, the Seastead home module would be similar to these shown in the video, but more robust because they will be out in the middle of an ocean - not nestled in a sheltered harbor with calm waters.

The seastead will need to withstand waves up to 12 feet high and sustained (hurricane/cyclone) winds of 155 MPH.

It will take some serious engineering.. But if they can put a man on the moon, they can figure out how to bolt together a bunch of barges with houses on them.
  
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Reply #65 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:42pm
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I happened to think, you could probably buy used ocean-going garbage barges pretty cheap, and they are heavily built...

It could be just the thing to finally get a seastead off the ground... Grin Grin Grin That pun snuck up on me! (Was that a pun?) Cheesy

Edit: I've been wondering, how are the "modules" to be connected?
  

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Reply #66 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:16pm
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What about work Chief? Are there jobs on SeaStead?
  
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Reply #67 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 10:04pm
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yamcha wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:16pm:
What about work Chief? Are there jobs on SeaStead?
lots of jobs - more jobs than you can imagine;

Diesel mechanics

Helicopter pilots

Waste Management engineers

marina/Boat yard workers

Deep sea Bait & Tackle

Solar & Wind generator operators

Emergency Power engine operators

Fuel depot operators

Heli-Pad controller

Home Module mtce/repair specialists

And these are just the infrastructure jobs.  There will also be Restaurants, Kite Shops, Medical/dental clinic, and a Gun/Ammo shop.  The Gun/Ammo shop will be especially profitable because Seasteaders will shoot armored target drones buzzing around the seastead. . . .Their weapons are full-auto, so they will go through ammo really quick!
  
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Reply #68 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 10:08pm
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Will there be comfort women jobs?
  
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Reply #69 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 10:10pm
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yamcha wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Will there be comfort women jobs?
Of course.
  
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