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Capitalism Only Works with Protected Borders
Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:08pm
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Japanese capitalism works fine, and that's because, even though they're dealing with an aging population, they're not importing the world to deal with it. Population will fall and wages will rise, allowing workers to have more babies.

The Japanese are proud of their own culture and every individual has an interest in preserving it. The Japanese want their country to remain Japanese. This means that even though companies would make short-term gains by importing third-world workers, they won't press the government for it, and the government would never do it anyway.

If a capitalist country can just import all the workers it wants, there is no reason to pay the workers already there enough to reproduce. Ready-made adults will come from the third world and take those jobs for a tenth of what you're paying Joe, and somehow they will always be able to have a LOT of babies... and also vote for socialism.

Europeans do not respect their culture and it's seen as evil to want to preserve it.

This is not to say preserving European culture isn't evil.

Maybe it is evil.

Regardless, you cannot sustain capitalism without protected borders.

Wages drop, workers can't self-replace, and the third world is bused in to replace them.

These new people aren't cool with being replaced so they will vote capitalism away rather than suffer the same fate.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Capitalism Only Works with Protected Borders
Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:23pm
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It only works with capitalists and borders need to be protected so that non-capitalist can't come in. 

Japan works great because it is an island nation that naturally keeps the Japanese in and filth outside.

You watch that jap cat movie yet dickhead?  Give me your review.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:32pm
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yamcha wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
It only works with capitalists and borders need to be protected so that non-capitalist can't come in.


That's true too. People don't see it as a bad point of capitalism that it produces prosperity, but it is, because prosperity attracts exactly the kind of people who will vote for a share of the wealth of others.

yamcha wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
You watch that jap cat movie yet dickhead?  Give me your review.


It was a virus. I had to reformat my hard drive.
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:34pm
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Yeah right, you piece of shit.  That's what I get for being cool to you?
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:57pm
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Once socialism permeates any political system, it breaks down.

Taxes. . . public schools. . . cronyism. . .  redistribution. . . . poverty . . . economic collapse.

It always ends the same. . .  

So sad.

  
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Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 11:20pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:57pm:
Once socialism permeates any political system, it breaks down.


And if you're a socialist - a redistributionist - where are you going to go?

I don't know... how about... to where people have a ton more money than you?

↑ Why capitalism can't work without protected borders. ↑

Now, if you want to argue that it is the government's duty to ensure the respect of the rights of others, and that includes the right to travel, that's fine. You're absolutely correct.

However, you will lose your capitalism. The redistributionists will overwhelm it with numbers. That is simply what will happen.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:26am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Japanese capitalism works fine...
Japan actually has a mercantile system, and it isn't working very well.
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:28am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 11:20pm:
And if you're a socialist - a redistributionist - where are you going to go?

I don't know... how about... to where people have a ton more money than you?

↑ Why capitalism can't work without protected borders. ↑

You're saying people want to immigrate to places where there is a welfare state?

What does a welfare state have to do with a free economy?

People seem to want to go here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/leprosy-could-be-next-public-health-cr...

You think it's because Los Angeles is a free market haven?
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 12:11pm
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 11:20pm:
And if you're a socialist - a redistributionist - where are you going to go?

Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Peru, Iceland, Bolivia, Armenia, Serbia, et al. . .


The Opposition wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 11:20pm:
. . . you will lose your capitalism. The redistributionists will overwhelm it with numbers. That is simply what will happen.
Exactly.   That's why the only place for liberty and freedom to thrive is on a Seastead which limits the population, enforces borders, and banishes socialists and criminals.

Liberty is very expensive.  Libertarians would happily pay millions to live in a free society, away from coercive governments that violate individual rights.

  
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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 12:23pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 12:11pm:
Libertarians would happily pay millions to live in a free society, away from coercive governments that violate individual rights.

I'd happily pay trillions!

But hey, America with a limited government protecting rights sounds like a better idea! Then even poor people can get the benefits of liberty... Smiley Smiley Smiley
  

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