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Reply #40 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:18am
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Reply #41 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:25am
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ahhell wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 9:05am:
What's that, around .2%? 
Does that matter? Perhaps they are worried Vietnam or N. Korea will invade them?
  

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Reply #42 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 12:24pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Does that matter? Perhaps they are worried Vietnam or N. Korea will invade them?

It obviously does matter.  There is no reason to expect that say, Canada would have the same size military as the US, in large part because Canada's population is so much smaller than the US. 

Then there's the the length of borders with other nations that have not being especially friendly in recent history.  China has traded blows with both India and the Former Soviet Union in the last 50 years.
  
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Reply #43 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 2:40pm
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ahhell wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 12:24pm:
Then there's the the length of borders with other nations that have not being especially friendly in recent history.  China has traded blows with both India and the Former Soviet Union in the last 50 years.   

Yes, and they invaded Vietnam several times in history. Countries wanting to create empires always need big armies, and the bigness only matters in relation to the armies they will have to fight, not to the size of their population.
  

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Reply #44 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 2:42pm
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ahhell wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 12:24pm:
There is no reason to expect that say, Canada would have the same size military as the US, in large part because Canada's population is so much smaller than the US. 

There's also the fact that Canada has every expectation that we won't invade.
  

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Reply #45 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:01pm
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ahhell wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 12:58pm:
I agree but....
I would support a system in which there were two classes of citizens, voters and non-voters.  Non-voters get all the rights of citizens except voting. 

Voters get to vote but in order to do so they are required to serve in the military.   I'd suggest 4 years active and 16 in the reserve/militia. 

Military service was traditional in all republics prior to the United states.  Those who rule society should be obligated to defend society.  This was the reason all governments justified their existence prior to modern times.  Granted, governments originally arose as a protection racket and generally serve that function still, its really just a matter of how well the fulfill that role that varies.


I'm heavily inclined to disagree, but what we are doing now is clearly not working.  Our government is just disregarding all limits on the powers enumerated to it by the people and is completely illegitimate.  While I'm not inclined to agree with this solution, I think we need to consider all of them if we ever want to figure out what went wrong and correct it
  

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Reply #46 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:03pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:25am:
I'm still registered for the draft


  

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Reply #47 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:30pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:25am:
I'm still registered for the draft

Are you allowed to un-register?
  

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Jeff wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:30pm:
Are you allowed to un-register?

You can age out or I suppose  renounce your citizenship.
  
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Reply #49 - yesterday at 9:08am
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ahhell wrote yesterday at 8:54am:
You can age out or I suppose  renounce your citizenship.
So, Little BM can't claim to be a patriot because he's still carried on the Selective Service rolls?

I really don't know why he mentioned it...
  

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