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Reply #40 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:46am
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kaz wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Jeff:  We need to get a warrant and read terrorists their rights before killing or detaining them in the Middle East.
If we are at war, and they are enemy soldiers, they have no rights beyond those our government has chosen to grant to captured enemy soldiers, which is really no more than humane treatment while they are held in captivity.

If anyone in the U.S. is arrested for allegedly committing an act of terrorism, our laws apply to them, and "innocent until proven guilty" is fundamental to our conception of justice.
  

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Reply #41 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:47am
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kaz wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 9:48pm:
That's Jeff ...
Trolling each other again? That's what you always do when you have nothing to say.
  

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Reply #42 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:52am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:46am:
If we are at war, and they are enemy soldiers, they have no rights beyond those our government has chosen to grant to captured enemy soldiers, which is really no more than humane treatment while they are held in captivity.

If anyone in the U.S. is arrested for allegedly committing an act of terrorism, our laws apply to them, and "innocent until proven guilty" is fundamental to our conception of justice.


We are not at war.
  

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Reply #43 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:02am
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Little Big Man wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:52am:
We are not at war.
True, nor have we been since WWII ended.

SCOTUS is making noises indicating they might address the issue of Congress delegating it's powers to the Executive, which is of course what has allowed Presidents since Truman to engage our military in undeclared wars. Let's hope the delegation of powers can be halted, and the powers granted to Congress returned to Congress alone. Smiley
  

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Reply #44 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:52am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:46am:
If anyone in the U.S. is arrested for allegedly committing an act of terrorism, our laws apply to them, and "innocent until proven guilty" is fundamental to our conception of justice.


I said the middle east, dumb ass.  Not the midwest.  The middle east isn't in the United States.  My God, man.  Did you finish the 3rd grade at Hillbilly school?  Have you ever looked at a map?

Seriously, all this time when they talked about middle east terror, you actually thought they meant Minnesota?  What is wrong with you, drunken man?

kaz wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Name a country that is saying if the US doesn't give Constitutional rights to terrorists in the middle east then they see no reason to give US citizens on vacation in their country the protection of their laws like we do theirs


Started drinking early today, huh Jeff?   You did say you keep beer on your bed stand to get you through until you can get to the liquor cabinet
  

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Reply #45 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:58am
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Little Big Man wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:52am:
We are not at war.


Ask the Syrians about that, the United States isn't at war ...
  

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Reply #46 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 10:03am
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kaz wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:52am:
I said the Middle East, dumb ass.  Not the Mid West


I know what you said.

So, if we aren't at war, is our government required to treat foreign citizens in foreign nations as if they have rights? They do have rights, don't they?

Young Kim might be plotting and planning to nuke Sacramento... Could we just send a Special Forces team to capture him and take him to Guantanamo and torture him and hold him there indefinitely?

The idea of undeclared "preventative" wars is tricky I think... Must we wait until Young Kim launches a nuke at Sacramento and hope it can be intercepted?

I think a Constitutional solution might be for Congress to declare war on every country that is threatening America in any way. Then, we can operate against them under the internationally recognized laws of war! What do you think?
  

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Reply #47 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 10:21am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 10:03am:
I know what you said


Then why did you think the middle east was in the United States?
  

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Reply #48 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 11:10am
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kaz wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:58am:
Ask the Syrians about that, the United States isn't at war ...


I would ask Congress, not Syria.


  

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Re: There Are No Libertarians After A Terrorist Attack
Reply #49 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 11:41am
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Little Big Man wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 11:10am:
I would ask Congress, not Syria.




Swish.  Nothing has flown over your head this fast since your underwear when your mom greeted you at the door wearing nothing but a smile ...

I think Syrians would say we are at war when we are bombing and killing them.   Maybe I'm just old fashioned.  I'm not into war like you are where we can bomb and kill people we aren't at war with.

It's the kind of stupid thing that flies over your head when you're just pretending to be a libertarian to troll the board, Don
  

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