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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #110 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:16pm
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kaz wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 2:54pm:
Proving yet again that you don't have an fing clue what you are talking about, you're just making it up as you go
You're just bloviating unless you can explain how I'm wrong.

I think bloviating is a type of trolling for the purpose of obstructing discussions. Cry
  

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Reply #111 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:18pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:58pm:
I’m glad you admit you see it as collective.


Democratic votes result in collective decisions. It's how we collectively choose representatives.
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #112 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:24pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:58pm:
Must collective consent be expressed or can it be assumed based on collective passivity?

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If it must be expressed, what is the standard to say, “yes, the collective consents?”

Not voting makes a statement to representatives. If enough people choose to not vote, it could be legitimately claimed that the representative was not in fact chosen by the community, was not actually authorized by the people to have him/her/it represent them.

Communities are types of collectives...
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #113 - Dec 4th, 2019 at 7:50am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Not voting makes a statement to representatives. If enough people choose to not vote, it could be legitimately claimed that the representative was not in fact chosen by the community, was not actually authorized by the people to have him/her/it represent them.


That's interesting.  How many people is "enough?"

Our voter participation rates are shockingly low.


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Communities are types of collectives...


OK, you used to get very huffy when I said you believe that the collective has rights that the individual does not.  I'm glad you realize that this is your position.

Since you are also citing democracy, can you say that the reason the collective has rights that no individual could have is simply, "majority rules?"

You used to get huffy about that also.

Do you still claim that consent by a minority of a community's ancestors forever and irrevocably binds future generations?
  

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