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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #40 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 10:17pm
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yamcha wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 9:53pm:
The dems want to take away your handguns but use are your handguns against f-22's, nuclear subs, smart bombs, chemical warfare, etc.

Your thinking is noble but too 1700s.
Nah.

Civilians need access to the same weapons the standing army has.

If the standing army has pea-shooters, then we only need pea-shooters to repel an insurgence.

If the standing army has M41A carbines at the ready, then we (civilians) need something equivalent to repel them, if needed.

Civilians must always have equivalent firepower as the Military.

This is the purpose of the Militia - to protect the Republic in the event of an insurgence.

It could happen from within. We need to be prepared for that.
  

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Reply #41 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 10:18pm
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duplicate - sorry. . .


  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #42 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 11:20pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Nah.

Civilians need access to the same weapons the standing army has.

If the standing army has pea-shooters, then we only need pea-shooters to repel an insurgence.

If the standing army has M41A carbines at the ready, then we (civilians) need something equivalent to repel them, if needed.

Civilians must always have equivalent firepower as the Military.

This is the purpose of the Militia - to protect the Republic in the event of an insurgency.

It could happen from within. We need to be prepared for that.

I agree.  So do you agree that we must have the right to have modern warcraft, destroyers, aircraft carriers, nukes, etc?  Are you willing to die for my right to own a gun?
  
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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #43 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 3:40am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 11:20pm:
So do you agree that we must have the right to have modern warcraft, destroyers, aircraft carriers, nukes, etc? 
Individual citizens?    Not really.

We don't need to worry about about a destroyer or an aircraft carrier showing up at our doorstep demanding we surrender our firearms.

We DO, however need to worry about armed ATF or IRS agents showing up at our doorstep demanding we surrender our firearms.

If/when they do, they will most likely be armed with  M4A1 carbines.  And 30-round magazines.

So citizens will need M4A1s (or equivalent weapon) to preserve the "security of a Free State".

That's what the second Amendment is all about - it guarantees that the People will have a fighting chance should some government try to conquer us.   Including our own! 

yamcha wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 11:20pm:
Are you willing to die for my right to own a gun?
Yes.
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #44 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 4:08am
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Thanks Chief.

Ok, let's say it comes down to it and the fukks go door to door to take out guns.  For sure some people will shoot first and there will be citizen snipers.  That just gives them the right to bring out all their high tech x-ray, infrared, face recognition shit and their drones and their guns that can kill you from miles away.

How do we defend ourselves now?
  
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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #45 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 6:29am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 9:53pm:
Chief, we talked about this many times.  We need to be able to protect ourselves from enemies foreign and domestic, right?  The dems want to take away your handguns but use are your handguns against f-22's, nuclear subs, smart bombs, chemical warfare, etc.

Your thinking is noble but too 1700s.  We the people are already completely defenseless.  Do you think a well-armed militia with assault rifles can do anything against a stealth bomber?  Do you think even 1 million well-armed American could mount a successful coup with their weapons?
The well armed militias are the State Militias, not the Chief and his shooting buddies. State Militias are under the control of State governments. Supposed to be anyway.

Who do you think will start going door to door to confiscate guns?
  

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Reply #46 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 6:31am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:37pm:
I'm not.

Questions about the meaning of the Constitution cannot be decided by the Supreme Court. They can only decide if a law enacted by Congress falls within the power granted to Congress, or not.

If it is questionable, it must be referred back to the People.

For instance, did the People actually intend to grant Congress the power to have a GSE (government sponsored enterprise) like the Federal Reserve Bank print fiat money and declare it legal tender? Can such a power actually be inferred from "the power to coin money"?

For that matter, did the people actually intend to grant the President the power to confiscate their gold and silver? Can that actually be inferred from a granted power of the Constitution? Which one?

You concede defeat again Little BM?
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #47 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 9:44am
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yamcha wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 4:08am:
Thanks Chief.

Ok, let's say it comes down to it and the fukks go door to door to take out guns.  For sure some people will shoot first and there will be citizen snipers.  That just gives them the right to bring out all their high tech x-ray, infrared, face recognition shit and their drones and their guns that can kill you from miles away.

How do we defend ourselves now?
In this case, we would need to wear masks to fool the face-recognition stuff.  I will use my Ronald Reagan mask. . . . They would never shoot Ronald Reagan, would they?   Maybe Nixon, but not Reagan.  Smiley

Who knows what lengths the government would go to engaging in combat with our citizen militias?   All the more reason for the Militias to armed as well as the standing army, law enforcement, FBI, ATF,  etc.,  etc.

And that's why I proposed that all gun owners become Militia.
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #48 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 9:48am
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duplicate. . . sorry. 

(damn mobile device keeps doing this even though I tap once on the SAVE button.   Angry  )
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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #49 - Sep 16th, 2019 at 1:27pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 9:48am:

Well regulated militias.
  

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