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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #80 - Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:44pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 4:51pm:
You don’t need any evidence to say that?

No, none. Not a bit.

All I have to do is assume that quite a few slaves would have preferred to be free, and it instantly turns from "many" into "most".

Do you think I'm wrong in my reasoning?
  

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Reply #81 - Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:46pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:02pm:
Yeah, they’re so useful now.



Libertarians agree with you, our government has been off the rails entirely since the New Deal Court perverted the Constitution.


  

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Reply #82 - Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:48pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 4:59pm:
When you think about it all that makes perfect sense if you accept that some human beings can rightfully be property...
What sort of evil person still believes that? You?

Edit: No, yamcha, of course! Cry
  

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Reply #83 - Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:51pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 4:59pm:
The majority of founders clearly accepted that...
I don't think so. Clearly, many of them were extremely conflicted about the entire issue...

Clearly conflicted prevents one from being clearly accepting.

You talk as if you are trying to pin the invention of chattel slavery on the Founders. It won't work. Slavery wasn't their idea.
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #84 - Sep 25th, 2019 at 9:59am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 5:51pm:
I don't think so. Clearly, many of them were extremely conflicted about the entire issue...

Clearly conflicted prevents one from being clearly accepting.

You talk as if you are trying to pin the invention of chattel slavery on the Founders. It won't work. Slavery wasn't their idea.


Oh, well as long as they didn't think of it, they can hardly be blamed, right?

Madison owned slaves.  He had a personal servant named Sawney and many other slaves.  It is likely that when he wrote the stirring words of freedom in the preamble, he did it with ink and quill brought to him by one of his slaves.

The closest he ever came to freeing a single one of them was to sell one into seven years of servitude in the north rather than take him back to Virginia where he might talk to the other slaves about the benefits of freedom.

Just who are these anti-slaver firebrands among the framers?
  

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Reply #85 - Sep 25th, 2019 at 3:41pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 9:59am:
Oh, well as long as they didn't think of it, they can hardly be blamed, right?

Madison owned slaves.  He had a personal servant named Sawney and many other slaves.  It is likely that when he wrote the stirring words of freedom in the preamble, he did it with ink and quill brought to him by one of his slaves.

The closest he ever came to freeing a single one of them was to sell one into seven years of servitude in the north rather than take him back to Virginia where he might talk to the other slaves about the benefits of freedom.

Just who are these anti-slaver firebrands among the framers?
Who cares, slavery was ended in 1865.

The preamble was agreed on by a committee, and it's stirring words of Liberty are still part of our Supreme Law.
  

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Reply #86 - Sep 26th, 2019 at 7:58am
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I think this is topical.

It seems the Army is getting involved in domestic police work:

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/shooting-threat-at-joker-movie-premiere-spurs-wa...

This is a very bad idea, and not at all the purpose of our military.
  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #87 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 12:08pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
The hand-wringing gun-grabbers complain that the 2nd Amendment is misinterpreted and that the meaning of "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." is to ensure that only Militia should be allowed to have guns muzzle-loaded smooth-bore muskets.

Of course, that's not really the meaning of "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

But how about the President encourage ALL gun owners to get involved and become volunteer members of local militias.

The "well-regulated" part would be the types of weapons & ammo available to Militia members. 

AR 15s  (.223 & 5.56mm NATO ammo) and AK 47s (7.62×39mm) would be the recommended Militia weapons but NOT mandatory.  30-round magazines would be recommended, but NOT mandatory.

Militias should meet at least once a month to discuss firearm safety and tactics.  And drink beer.  Smiley

This would put a muzzle on the gun-grabbers once and for all.

Trump could emerge God-like in the eyes of law-abiding American gun owners.  Gun-grabbing elites will hate him even more, but who cares?


It wouldn't work.  Democrats think the second amendment is a power of government, not the people.  Apparently the founders were deathly afraid the government would disarm itself and wanted to make sure that didn't happen.  Yes, they are that stupid.

They will always spin whatever is said or done to justify their position.  Making things clearer or following what the left says they want now just won't work.   What they want is only government to be armed.  You aren't going to satisfy them with anything short of that

  

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Re: How About Actually Forming "A Well-Regulated Militia"
Reply #88 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 12:12pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 9:59am:
Just who are these anti-slaver firebrands among the framers?


John Adams, Sam Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay are a few
  

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Reply #89 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 6:16pm
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kaz wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
John Adams, Sam Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay are a few
You really embarrassed the Little BM this time kaz, good work. Smiley
  

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