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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #50 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:22pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 11:26am:
NY came out with a law that violates Free Speech.  The Law states that they can impose a quarter-million dollar fine on anyone who uses the term "illegal alien".

If you say ILLEGAL ALIEN 4 times, you can be fined $1,000,000.

Think for a moment about how unbelievably moronic that is.


This tends to happen to words that describe negative things. Those words take on a negative connotation and have to be discarded.

I mentioned this years ago, and both Alan and Dissident agreed with it. (They never agreed on anything! I consider this an achievement.)

The Opposition wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:23am:
Whenever you go on and on ruining words and have to keep changing them like soiled diapers, maybe it's you that stinks. Just sayin'.


But it's not like the term itself is evil. It only became disgusting when used to describe something disgusting.

Are they trying to say that if the original selection of a term to describe those in the country illegally was blippityflorp, we wouldn't be banning that now?

Of course we would.

Ergo, the word isn't the problem.

Guess what is.

And also tell me why you think it's illogical for me to accept that I should be forced to do something precisely because I would never do it voluntarily. Have you ever had surgery? How do you think you'd have fared if they didn't put you under? Do you think you'd have perhaps struggled and ruined the surgery?
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #51 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:31pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
SkyChief wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 11:26am:
NY came out with a law that violates Free Speech.  The Law states that they can impose a quarter-million dollar fine on anyone who uses the term "illegal alien".

If you say ILLEGAL ALIEN 4 times, you can be fined $1,000,000.

Think for a moment about how unbelievably moronic that is.  


This tends to happen to words that describe negative things. Those words take on a negative connotation and have to be discarded.

I mentioned this years ago, and both Alan and Dissident agreed with it.

So you support this NY anti-free speech Law?
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #52 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:46pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:31pm:
So you support this NY anti-free speech Law?


No, but I support the idea that I should be forced to pay for public school, and I don't think that's any more of a contradiction than wanting myself restrained if I needed to have one of my limbs sawed off.

Look up something called game theory if you still think so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

As a rational decision-maker, I would choose to keep my money if you let me. I would use it toward my own reproduction instead of the reproduction of others.

But that is a rights violation of the child, who should not have to pay for the mistakes of his parents.

Therefore I cannot be allowed to keep that money.

Actually I think the law does nothing but destroy language. Another word will come to describe illegal aliens and then that word will have to be banned, so on and so forth until all words are banned.
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #53 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 4:51pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 11:26am:
There was a little "topic drift" happening.  But were still discussing govenment over-reach whether its with gun restrictions or education.

The only way to reduce the Government's intrusion into our lives is to cut funding.  And that means take away their credit card.  End income taxes.   That's the big cash cow for lawmakers.  End property taxes, too. 

And punish lawmakers which create programs that go over budget. or violate the Bill of Rights.

NY came out with a law that violates Free Speech.  The Law states that they can impose a quarter-million dollar fine on anyone who uses the term "illegal alien".

If you say ILLEGAL ALIEN 4 times, you can be fined $1,000,000.

Think for a moment about how unbelievably moronic that is.   Lawmakers that come up with this crazy shit need to be severely punished, and removed from office.

Lawmakers that pass laws to infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms should be punished and publicly humiliated.   Tar & Feathering should be brought back. 
I see you've changed the topic again, but I'm not sure what you've changed it to... Let me see how the jerkwad and yamcha reply to you...
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #54 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 4:52pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
This tends to happen to words that describe negative things. Those words take on a negative connotation and have to be discarded.


That didn't help! I still don't know what the new topic is. Angry

Edit: The forced prostitution of language?
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #55 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 4:53pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:31pm:
So you support this NY anti-free speech Law?
OK then, it's another free speech thread! Yippee.
  

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Reply #56 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 4:55pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:46pm:
No, but I support the idea that I should be forced to pay for public school, and I don't think that's any more of a contradiction than wanting myself restrained if I needed to have one of my limbs sawed off.

I'm forced asea again! WTF is this thread about?

As Curly once said, "Is everybody stupid?"
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #57 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 12:02am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 4:55pm:
I'm forced asea again! WTF is this thread about?

As Curly once said, "Is everybody stupid?"


This is your new way of evading issues. "Off topic off topic!"

No one does this to you when you intentionally derail threads.
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #58 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 7:15am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 12:02am:
This is your new way of evading issues. "Off topic off topic!"

No one does this to you when you intentionally derail threads.
Recently, every thread seems to be derailed with every reply... Is that the new topic here? Derailing conversations?
  

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Re: Beto: “Hell Yes, We’re Going To Take Your AR-15, Your AK-47."
Reply #59 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 7:17am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 1:46pm:
No, but I support the idea that I should be forced to pay for public school, and I don't think that's any more of a contradiction than wanting myself restrained if I needed to have one of my limbs sawed off.

Modern anesthesia is better if you need to have a leg sawed off. Smiley

Should we go back to confiscation of guns?
  

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