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Reply #10 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 7:52am
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Reply #11 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 9:42am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 7:52am:


Offering assistance with another country's investigation of a corrupt senior American politician, after that corrupt politician bragged about holding out foreign aid to prevent that investigation of himself and his son seems more a benevolent use of his power.

Why do you think Biden using his power to stop a legitimate investigation was not abusive?


  

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Reply #12 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 1:03pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 9:42am:
Offering assistance with another country's investigation of a corrupt senior American politician, after that corrupt politician bragged about holding out foreign aid to prevent that investigation of himself and his son seems more a benevolent use of his power.

Why do you think Biden using his power to stop a legitimate investigation was not abusive?


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Re: The Two Parties Set to Provide Comedy Gold!
Reply #13 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 11:37am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 1:03pm:
You're deranged, aren't you?


The thing about Trump is that every time the Dems claim he is "obstructing justice" he seems to be using his presidential powers to end an injustice. 

Yes, he tried to stop the special counsel investigation.  If the special counsel team had been investigating a private citizen and was acting toward that citizen the way it acted toward Trump, Trump would have had a duty to put an end to it in order to protect the rights of that citizen and of the citizens the Special Counsel prosecuted in an unsuccessful attempt to get them to turn on Trump. 

What is a president to do when he himself is the target of rogue agencies within the executive branch?  AG Sessions recused himself because he was a potential witness/target of the investigation.  There is no such option for a president that I can find in the constitution.

He clearly pressured the Ukrainian president to restart the investigation into the Biden Crime Family.  But that was in response to Biden's bragged about use of U.S. funds to pressure Ukraine into stopping the prosecution in the first place.   If that is "obstruction" is is more like "Obstruction of obstruction." 

I guess a Sunday school type president would have simply told the Ukrainian president that any decision about prosecutions are up to Ukraine and won't affect U.S. aid at all.  But the American people haven't voted for a Sunday school president since Carter and that taught us a good lesson.

  

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Reply #14 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 2:02pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 11:37am:
He clearly pressured the Ukrainian president to restart the investigation into the Biden Crime Family.
Is that what you think President's should do? Pressure foreign governments into investigating their political opponents?


  

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Reply #15 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 2:30pm
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Little Big Man wrote Today at 11:37am:
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He clearly pressured the Ukrainian president to restart the investigation into the Biden Crime Family.


Jeff wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
Is that what you think President's should do? Pressure foreign governments into investigating their political opponents?




You have to read the whole post, not argue against the first sentence.
  

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Reply #16 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 4:56pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
You have to read the whole post...
No I don't.
  

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