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How is this Murder?
Oct 1st, 2019 at 9:31am
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(CNN)A Dallas resident who fatally shot a backyard intruder and then went back to bed has been charged with murder, according to police.

The homeowner, James Michael Meyer, said he didn't know whether he struck the person, so he went back to bed and didn't call police, according to an arrest warrant released by the Dallas Police Department.

Meyer, 72, says that he was awakened around 5 a.m. Thursday by a noise outside, according to an arrest warrant affidavit filed by Dallas police. Meyer told police he looked outside and saw someone attempting to break into his storage shed, and that's when he got his handgun and went outside to confront the person.

Meyer told the intruder not to come any closer or he would shoot him, the warrant reads. Meyer said the man took a few steps toward him with a pickax in his hand, the warrant says, and that's when he fired his gun. He said the unidentified man dropped the pickax and ran into the park behind his property. Meyer told police he fired another shot "into the night" in the direction of the park and then went to bed.

As the sun began to rise, Meyer looked outside and saw what he thought was a black bag in the park. He went to get a closer look, according to the warrant, and discovered a man lying facedown on the ground.

Meyer said he had his wife contact an attorney before he called 911 at 7:04 a.m. to report a home invasion in progress.

Meyer refused to answer the 911 dispatcher's questions and repeatedly said "he was a victim of a crime and that medical assistance was needed," according to the warrant.

Police officers arrived to find the deceased male lying facedown in the park behind Meyer's home with a gunshot wound to the back of his neck, Dallas police said in a post on the department website. The warrant said Dallas Fire Rescue determined the person had been dead for several hours.

Crime scene analysts called to process the scene couldn't find any spent shell casings. According to the warrant, Meyer told them that he picked them up and threw them away. Detectives also noted in the warrant that several neighbors stated hearing three gunshots, not two.
Meyer was arrested and charged with murder Thursday. He was released from jail Friday after posting the $150,000 bond, according to records from the Dallas County Sheriff's Office.

Dallas Police have not identified the man who was shot.
CNN reached out to Meyer's attorney but has not received a response.


Maybe there is some misdemeanor in the way he delayed reporting the shooting if you look at his actions in the worst possible light.  Maybe.

Why arrest him for murder?  Why put a 72 year-old man in jail before you have contemplated the facts of the case and how they fit in with the law?  Why not wait until the DA decides to actually file charges (which they most likely will never do) and then get an arrest warrant? 

The answer is boredom.  Police get bored writing tickets and telling people that their neighbors are complaining about their stereos.  But real criminals are hard to locate and dangerous to arrest when they do find them, so police avoid that kind of law enforcement if at all possible, like by always being busy with trivia. 

Nothing police like better than arresting a law-abiding taxpayer who ends up in a bad situation through no fault of their own and forgets to call their lawyer before they defend themselves.
  

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Re: How is this Murder?
Reply #1 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 9:38am
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Because he shot the guy in the back as he was running away.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 9:59am
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yamcha wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 9:38am:
Because he shot the guy in the back as he was running away.

Pretty much.  Not to mention, the whole story is a bit fishy.   At the very least its manslaughter.
  
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Re: How is this Murder?
Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:17am
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The homeowner had no way to know the intruders intent.

Arresting people for murder of a burglar is absurd.  If an investigation showed that the homeowner knew the man and had reason to want him dead, bring him in for questioning or ask the DA to look into charges.

What’s very fishy to me is that police want us to believe that they really think a guy lived as a law abiding taxpayer for 72 years and then suddenly broke bad.  Thinking the burglar got away and not calling the police because they aren’t gonna do anything anyway sounds like a mistake an old man would make.

He wasn’t mistaken in thinking police would not catch the burglar. That burglar would be casing his next house right now if not for that lucky shot. His mistake was thinking that police understand or care about the right to self-defense.  His mistake was not cowering in his home waiting an hour for ineffectual cops to take a report.

These days police are as likely to have a man bun and a unicorn tattoo as to respect the law-abiding.
  

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Re: How is this Murder?
Reply #4 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:43am
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He basically incriminated himself by admitting this: "He said the unidentified man dropped the pickax and ran..."

He should have just said nothing and he should have called 911 ASAP.  But it probably wouldn't matter since CSI could probably retrace all the steps.  There is a chance the guy is lying and purposely shot the guy in the back and didn't know what to do about it.
  
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Re: How is this Murder?
Reply #5 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 11:10am
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The trespasser has a right to live.  Even when trespassing.

If the Axe-Man had forced his way into the house, the old man would have been justified in shooting pick-axe-Man. Even WITHOUT a verbal warning.

That's the premise of the "Castle Doctrine". It allows a person to use deadly force against an intruder (who forces entry into the house).

What if Pick-axe-man was an illegal alien, didn't speak English, and didn't understand the command to drop his Pick-axe?

What if he was just a Mexican looking to borrow a sharpening stone or a bench grinder?

He deserves to die?       In California, we value our illegals.

yamcha wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 9:38am:
Because he shot the guy in the back as he was running away.
That seems to be the case, here. 

Police officers arrived to find the deceased male lying facedown in the park behind Meyer's home with a gunshot wound to the BACK of his neck, Dallas police said.

The murder charge is appropriate if old man shot him as pickaxe Man fled.  It appears that he did.
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 11:20am
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He was a black guy.  Mexicans operate differently.
  
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yamcha wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 11:20am:
He was a black guy.  Mexicans operate differently.
What leads you to believe Pick-axe man is black?

Remember the Walter Scott shooting which occurred on April 4, 2015, in North Charleston, South Carolina.

Michael Slager, a North Charleston police officer, shot Scott multiple times in the back as Scott fled to evade arrest for a traffic violation.

Officer Slager was charged with MURDER.   In December 2017, ex-Officer Slager was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
  

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Re: How is this Murder?
Reply #8 - Oct 1st, 2019 at 1:06pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:17am:
The homeowner had no way to know the intruders intent.


It sounded like he intended to break into the shed and steal garden tools... Except when he came toward the homeowner, pickax in hand.

That justified shooting him (depending on how close he was) but when he ran off, the homeowner was no longer threatened, and so no longer had a right to shoot.
  

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Re: How is this Murder?
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Jeff wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 1:06pm:
It sounded like he intended to break into the shed and steal garden tools... Except when he came toward the homeowner, pickax in hand.

That justified shooting him (depending on how close he was) but when he ran off, the homeowner was no longer threatened, and so no longer had a right to shoot.
The old man shot the trespasser as he was fleeing the scene.  That's a fact.

The old man lied to police when he told them he fired his handgun as the pickaxe man approached him.

The police report said the pickaxe man suffered a single bullet wound to the back of the neck.   Pickaxe man was obviously running away.

It was murder, and the old man (Meyer) was charged with murder. 

Meyer's lawyer will instruct him to plead not guilty / self defense.   Meyer lied to police and juries don't like that.

Meyer will be convicted of a lesser offense - possibly second degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter.

Official prediction #023.
  

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