Libertarian's Forum
Libertarian Forum to discuss politics and free market economics.
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 8 Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Jews say not OK and get a haircut! (Read 694 times)
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 47958
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #10 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 4:35pm
Print Post  
ahhell wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 11:17am:
I'm not sure if its that racists are good at trolling or that progressives are easy marks, I suspect its the latter.  This Okay sign as a white power gang sign seems to have started as a joke among the alt right types but was eventually taken seriously by the progressive types. 

So the problem now, is that racist to seem to use it in order to trigger progressives, which does kind of make it an white power gang sign.   Its all very meta at this point. 
Indeed.

When you're absolutely right ahhell, it seems to stop the conversation dead...

Maybe I'm imagining things... Making a connection that isn't there.
  

"Free hate speech"
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
The Opposition
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 11316
Joined: Apr 30th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 8:34pm
Print Post  
ahhell wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 11:17am:
I'm not sure if its that racists are good at trolling or that progressives are easy marks, I suspect its the latter.  This Okay sign as a white power gang sign seems to have started as a joke among the alt right types but was eventually taken seriously by the progressive types. 

So the problem now, is that racist to seem to use it in order to trigger progressives, which does kind of make it an white power gang sign.   Its all very meta at this point. 


The real problem is that when one thing gets used that way, it gets added to the database and racists get banned or fired or whatever for ever using it.

So they move on to another thing.

And another.

And eventually everything is forbidden. 100% free market action exploiting horribly stupid people. I remind you that the ADL is not part of the government.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
-SnarkySack
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
yamcha
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 1518
Location: Southern California
Joined: Jul 5th, 2019
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #12 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:19pm
Print Post  
The Opposition wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
The real problem is that when one thing gets used that way, it gets added to the database and racists get banned or fired or whatever for ever using it.

So they move on to another thing.

And another.

And eventually everything is forbidden. 100% free market action exploiting horribly stupid people. I remind you that the ADL is not part of the government.


You don't have to be a racist to get fired.  You just have to show the slightest amount of disagreement or even hesitation in adopting progressive views.

I spoke to a friend I used to work with years ago who is still working at the same place.  Last week they made the whole company fill out a new application form stating which sex they are including "other" and which pronoun they prefer with a blank space for their own.  This new form will standard for all new applicants.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
The Opposition
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 11316
Joined: Apr 30th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #13 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 10:10pm
Print Post  
yamcha wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
I spoke to a friend I used to work with years ago who is still working at the same place.  Last week they made the whole company fill out a new application form stating which sex they are including "other" and which pronoun they prefer with a blank space for their own.  This new form will standard for all new applicants.


He should have said that his gender was king and his preferred pronoun was his majesty.

yamcha wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
You don't have to be a racist to get fired.  You just have to show the slightest amount of disagreement or even hesitation in adopting progressive views.


And there's no competition either. There really aren't conservative companies where you can be happy to be of the conservative political persuasion.

It's almost like libertarians were wrong when they said that the free market would never create more oppression and thought control than government.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
-SnarkySack
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
yamcha
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 1518
Location: Southern California
Joined: Jul 5th, 2019
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #14 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 10:27pm
Print Post  
The Opposition wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
He should have said that his gender was king and his preferred pronoun was his majesty.


And there's no competition either. There really aren't conservative companies where you can be happy to be of the conservative political persuasion.

It's almost like libertarians were wrong when they said that the free market would never create more oppression and thought control than government.


The free market is the truth but progressive libertarian types don't want to acknowledge that oppresses those races or nationalities who do not have the capability to compete.

Let's talk about libertarianism capitalism, socialism, communism and all the other political "isms"  If we look at the results and not the intentions, they are all in the end, exactly the same for they are all based on materialism (physicalism).  They only differ in their strategies for the distribution of wealth and property.  All of these "ism" eventually regress to their fundamental philosophy.

So to get ahead (freedom) in any of these markets ("isms"), whether free or not, you have to find a way to get rich. I believe this is what it all comes down to--Might Makes Right!  To have might, you have to have the money to buy it.

Anyone who wants to last long in any political environment must not follow the way of politics but the way of money.  If you follow a king and he gets dethroned, your head will roll too.

Money is the only thing that might protect you from all the uncertainties and changes in life.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 47958
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #15 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 8:12am
Print Post  
The Opposition wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
The real problem is that when one thing gets used that way, it gets added to the database and racists get banned or fired or whatever for ever using it.

So they move on to another thing.

And another.

And eventually everything is forbidden. 100% free market action exploiting horribly stupid people. I remind you that the ADL is not part of the government.
You have some evidence that people are getting fired for using the "OK" sign?
  

"Free hate speech"
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 47958
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #16 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 8:14am
Print Post  
yamcha wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
I spoke to a friend I used to work with years ago who is still working at the same place.  Last week they made the whole company fill out a new application form stating which sex they are including "other" and which pronoun they prefer with a blank space for their own.  This new form will standard for all new applicants.
I hope everybody checked "other"... Grin Grin Grin
  

"Free hate speech"
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 47958
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #17 - Oct 5th, 2019 at 8:16am
Print Post  
The Opposition wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
It's almost like libertarians were wrong when they said that the free market would never create more oppression and thought control than government.
No, they were (and are) correct in saying that governments are the only entities that can stop free speech.

Here's a pertinent op-ed:

https://babylonbee.com/news/free-speech-is-killing-us

Here's another:

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2019/10/us-customs-officer-harasses-defense-o...

  

"Free hate speech"
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
The Opposition
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 11316
Joined: Apr 30th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #18 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 2:30am
Print Post  
Jeff wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 8:16am:
No, they were (and are) correct in saying that governments are the only entities that can stop free speech.


Right, because when a private business stops people from speaking their minds or they'll lose their jobs and starve, you still define that as the person having free speech.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
-SnarkySack
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff
Libertarian Freedom Member
*****
Offline

Libertarian's Forum

Posts: 47958
Location: USA
Joined: Feb 26th, 2014
Re: Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Reply #19 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 7:21am
Print Post  
The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 2:30am:
Right, because when a private business stops people from speaking their minds or they'll lose their jobs and starve, you still define that as the person having free speech.
Just watch what you say at work, and don't post idiot shit on social media.

Keep your racist opinions to yourself unless you are among friends, or air them anonymously, or find an employer who's a racist too.

BTW, "... lose their jobs and starve" is a nice touch! Smiley

If you live in a society that generally disapproves of racism, you can't expect to be welcome everywhere if you're a loudmouthed racist Probably, it you're a polite racist and a good worker, you won't get fired unless you go around picking on the "niggers" (as you call them) that work where you do.
  

"Free hate speech"
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 8
Send TopicPrint
 
Libertarian's ForumLibertarian's ForumFreedom Forum › Jews say not OK and get a haircut!
Libertarian's Forum

Libertarian's Forum Information Rules, Agreement and Privacy Policy