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Reply #30 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:37pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
Or because it's their livelihood.
If you can get a disability, you can spend your life on social media.
  

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Reply #31 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:37pm:
If you can get a disability, you can spend your life on social media.


This is why libertarians think companies can't overstep or be tyrannical: They're all welfare-sucking parasites who never had to work for one.

Can't even vote or make a petition to have welfare mums spayed. That would be a rights violation, according to libertarians of course. Non-libertarians like Ahhell think you can vote however you like.

As Indy said, I've never taken a government handout in my life. You all have. Yet I'm the least libertarian person here.

Hmm. I wonder why that is.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #32 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:45pm
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I have never taken a government had out.  Why are you accusing me too?
  
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Reply #33 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:47pm
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yamcha wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:45pm:
I have never taken a government had out.  Why are you accusing me too?
Why not?
  

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Reply #34 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:49pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Can't even vote or make a petition to have welfare mums spayed.
That tears you up, doesn't it?

Your fondest dreams denied, because of rights.
  

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Reply #35 - Oct 6th, 2019 at 10:51pm
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yamcha wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:45pm:
I have never taken a government hand out.  Why are you accusing me too?


I'm not, but no one thinks you're a libertarian, either.

Jeff wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
That tears you up, doesn't it?

Your fondest dreams denied, because of rights.


Yet... lobbyists and welfare queens themselves can vote themselves more welfare, and somehow that's not aggression. If it's a big company, of course they can vote for aggression. That's fine; it's just advocacy.

Libertarianism is about double standards, as far as I see.
  

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Reply #36 - Oct 7th, 2019 at 8:10am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2019 at 10:51pm:
Yet... lobbyists and welfare queens themselves can vote themselves more welfare, and somehow that's not aggression. If it's a big company, of course they can vote for aggression. That's fine; it's just advocacy.

Libertarianism is about double standards, as far as I see.
Well, people can vote for representatives who will vote for welfare and corporate welfare, and anybody can lobby, and engage in political advocacy.

The reality is, libertarians oppose all forms of wealth transfers, whether it's individual welfare payments or corporate welfare.

Your vision, as usual, is blurry, and you are short sighted.

Edit: Companies don't get to vote. Cheesy
  

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Reply #37 - Oct 7th, 2019 at 9:58am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 5th, 2019 at 8:12am:
You have some evidence that people are getting fired for using the "OK" sign?

Good question. 

And no, a free market will not abridge freedom of speech as no one company has a monopoly on jobs.  The government on the other hand, does have a monopoly on the legal use of force.
  
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Reply #38 - Oct 7th, 2019 at 10:54am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 8:10am:
Well, people can vote for representatives who will vote for welfare and corporate welfare, and anybody can lobby, and engage in political advocacy.

The reality is, libertarians oppose all forms of wealth transfers, whether it's individual welfare payments or corporate welfare.

Your vision, as usual, is blurry, and you are short sighted.

Edit: Companies don't get to vote. Cheesy


Which is why it's very convenient that voting for aggression is itself aggression, but lobbying for aggression is not.

ahhell wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 9:58am:
Good question. 

And no, a free market will not abridge freedom of speech as no one company has a monopoly on jobs.  The government on the other hand, does have a monopoly on the legal use of force.


I can give you dozens of examples of people being fired for acts that were not intended as racist but somebody took it that way.

If no one company can afford to defy the media, or the ADL, then that behaves exactly like a monopoly on force.
  

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Reply #39 - Oct 7th, 2019 at 2:11pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 10:54am:
Which is why it's very convenient that voting for aggression is itself aggression, but lobbying for aggression is not.
The root of the problem (and your confusion) is that our government has no legitimate grant of authority to transfer wealth. The "aggression" that actually occurs is the unauthorized transfer of wealth by our governments.

When the government usurps such power, and uses it, it's only sensible to lobby for as much of it as you can get.

Were it not profitable to lobby, no one would do it.

In short, you are blaming the wrong people. It's the government, which hands out revenue without any legitimate authority, that is committing the aggression.
  

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