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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #240 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 7:29am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
Libertarians that I have seen, are the most tribal, and most outgroup-hostile, people on the planet*


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1) You are wrong because that isn't what Jeff said and Jeff speaks for all libertarians

2) You are wrong because that isn't what Rothbard said and Rothbard speaks for all libertarians

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #241 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:00am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
So that... they can be as uncomfortable as possible and take it out on as many people as possible?

No.
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #242 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:01am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
I want them bunched together. Wall them off.
Concentration camps are your first instinct?
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #243 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:03am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
Riiiiight.

When the argument of choice on this forum, more so than anywhere else in the world*, is, "You're not a libertarian!"

The anarchists make that claim all the time, thinking that to be a real libertarian you must be an anarchist.
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #244 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:06am
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The LP in the news:

https://reason.com/2019/11/07/candidates-vie-to-represent-the-libertarian-wing-o...

Probably the choice will narrow down to either Dan "Taxation is Theft" Behrman, or Vermin Supreme. Cheesy
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #245 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:38am
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kaz wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 7:29am:
Opposition's top arguments:

1) You are wrong because that isn't what Jeff said and Jeff speaks for all libertarians

2) You are wrong because that isn't what Rothbard said and Rothbard speaks for all libertarians

Practice what you preach before you sermonize


Jeff speaks for Jeff. I think he's wrong that libertarians aren't tribal because the top argument on this forum is, "You're not a libertarian!"
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #246 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:51am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:38am:
Jeff speaks for Jeff. I think he's wrong that libertarians aren't tribal because the top argument on this forum is, "You're not a libertarian!"


Yes.  And that's your top two arguments.  I said that in the post you quoted.  You didn't read it?
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #247 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 1:05pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:38am:
Jeff speaks for Jeff. I think he's wrong that libertarians aren't tribal because the top argument on this forum is, "You're not a libertarian!"
But that argument is made by anarchists and totalitarians... Are they tribal?
  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #248 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 9:42am
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I think it's safe to say that libertarians of all stripes think laws that make the use of some drugs or products illegal to adults are a bad isea, and that creating bureaucracies with the power to make laws interpreting and enforcing laws passed by Congress just makes it worse.

Here's another example of too much power of those kinds having very bad consequences:

https://reason.com/2019/11/08/more-evidence-that-black-market-thc-products-are-t...

  

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Re: No libertarians agree on what is libertarian
Reply #249 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 7:30pm
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Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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