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Reply #200 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 8:41am
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 7:56am:
My any definition of the word government, members of a jury are part of the government, however temporary their membership may be.


They are not. Your understanding of juries is absolutely wrong.
  

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Reply #201 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 10:50am
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Jeff wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 8:41am:
They are not. Your understanding of juries is absolutely wrong.


Just out of curiosity, how long does someone have to be in government employ, and what kind of power do they have to have, to be part of the government?

If Adolf Hitler ran a sweepstakes and made someone dictator for a day, would they be the government while they were holding the keys? (Assuming the sweepstakes was honest, of course.)

Jeff wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 7:51am:
Where do you find it?


The rule that if you don't do anything illegal, you can't be punished? It's in the Constitution. You should know that. No, I'm not going through it for you. You know it's there. It also talks about people being punished for laws retroactively: They can't be.

The law against the act literally absolutely positively has to exist when that person engaged in that act or they can't be punished.*

This won't be so in a libertarian society because everything will be grey and nothing will be absolute.

It's not grey when you decide to punish someone; you can't decide to punish them by a Schrodinger's cat box and actually have them come out both alive and dead. You either have to punish them or not. That's absolute.

The only question is whether they have a right to know the rules they'll be judged by, and the universal answer was no.

*This is why I think tort law violates the Constitution. You could have it, but it would have to be voluntary, and the courts would have to be private. I don't see any problem with this for tort law. If the laws are good, everyone will want them and businesses that proudly display "Operating Under the Guidelines of Solomon's Tort Law Court" will win business by making people feel safe. But if everyone's just suing the pants off each other randomly for massive windfalls, you will see few individuals and businesses consenting to tort law.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #202 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:39pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 10:50am:
Just out of curiosity, how long does someone have to be in government employ, and what kind of power do they have to have, to be part of the government?

Juries are citizens empowered to act against the government.
  

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The Opposition wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 10:50am:
The rule that if you don't do anything illegal, you can't be punished? It's in the Constitution.
It's not. Why would there need to be such a rule?
  

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Reply #204 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:43pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 10:50am:
*This is why I think tort law violates the Constitution.
Learn something.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Tort+Law

Nobody volunteers to be accused of a tort.
  

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