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Reply #50 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:38pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
I ask you to answer my question About the poker tournement.    You said:


I did tell you that I looked through the index and you still have not answered about the poker tournament.

So “tsk, tsk” you!


As far as I know, poker tournaments are definitely constitutional. Smiley
  

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Reply #51 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:39pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:28pm:
All of that is true.
Where did you learn to lie with the truth? You aren't very good at it. Cry
  

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Reply #52 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:43pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:39pm:
Where did you learn to lie with the truth? You aren't very good at it. Cry


I still have no.  Idea.  What you are accusing me of lying about.

Anyway, you only said that I had to tell you that I looked through the index, and I clearly did tell you that, so answer the question as promised.


  

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Reply #53 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:51pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
I still have no.  Idea.  What you are accusing me of lying about.


You implied, very strongly, that you read Story's Commentaries in High school... Then admitted that you didn't.
  

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Reply #54 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:53pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
Anyway, you only said that I had to tell you that I looked through the index, and I clearly did tell you that, so answer the question as promised.
Now you tell me you even lied about looking through the index. Tsk tsk.

Isn't there a thread about poker in the off topic section?

If you ask your question there, I'll answer, if I see it. I solemnly promise. Cross my heart. Smiley
  

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Reply #55 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:54pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
You implied, very strongly, that you read Story's Commentaries in High school... Then admitted that you didn't.


In the very next sentence, in which I clarified in case anyone did not understand that I was speaking of the words of the founders in general, and not that relatively obscure Mr. Story.

It is sad that you yourself are so constantly intellectually dishonest that you pounce on any opportunity to accuse someone else of lying. 


  

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Reply #56 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:55pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
Now you tell me you even lied about looking through the index. Tsk tsk.

Isn't there a thread about poker in the off topic section?

If you ask your question there, I'll answer, if I see it. I solemnly promise. Cross my heart. Smiley


If your first promise was a lie, why would I believe this one?
  

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Reply #57 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:10pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 2:54pm:
In the very next sentence, in which I clarified in case anyone did not understand that I was speaking of the words of the founders in general, and not that relatively obscure Mr. Story.
But you did read the index to the Commentaries when you were in high school, right?

Probably you went to the Law library at U.C.L.A to read it?

The chance that that happened is infinitesimal, but possible... Barely...

How did you happen to be in a good law library looking for the "obscure" Story Commentaries when you were still in high school? I bet it's an interesting story. (No pun intended.)
  

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Reply #58 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 10:07am
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In Book 3, Chapter 15, Story talks about the power to borrow money and regulated commerce.

In section 1075, he says this:

"The question comes to this, whether a power, exclusively for the regulation of commerce, is a power for the regulation of manufactures? The statement of such a question would seem to involve its own answer. Can a power, granted for one purpose, be transferred to another? If it can, where is the limitation in the constitution? Are not commerce and manufactures as distinct, as commerce and agriculture? If they are, how can a power to regulate one arise from a power to regulate the other? It is true, that commerce and manufactures are, or may be, intimately connected with each other. A regulation of one may injuriously or beneficially affect the other. But that is not the point in controversy. It is, whether congress has a right to regulate that, which is not committed to it, under a power, which is committed to it, simply because there is, or may be an intimate connection between the powers. If this were admitted, the enumeration of the powers of congress would be wholly unnecessary and nugatory. Agriculture, colonies, capital, machinery, the wages of labour, the profits of stock, the rents of land, the punctual performance of contracts, and the diffusion of knowledge would all be within the scope of the power; for all of them bear an intimate relation to commerce. The result would be, that the powers of congress would embrace the widest extent of legislative functions, to the utter demolition of all constitutional boundaries between the state and national governments. When duties are laid, not for purposes of revenue, but of retaliation and restriction, to countervail foreign restrictions, they are strictly within the scope of the power, as a regulation of commerce. But when, laid to encourage manufactures, they have nothing to do with it. The power to regulate manufactures is no more confided to congress, than the power to interfere with the systems of education, the poor laws, or the road laws of the states. It is notorious, that, in the convention, an attempt was made to introduce into the constitution a power to encourage manufactures; but it was withheld.53"
  

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Reply #59 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 12:07pm
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I see why I never bothered to read this guy.  It was a big mistake to give congress the power to regulate interstate commerce and believe that they would not regulate manufacturing.  Not unless the constitution explicitly states that there are no powers to enact laws that do not regulate interstate commerce but which it deems necessary and proper to regulate interstate commerce. 

Story lived in a dream world in which people elect congressmen who will abide by the constitution instead of electing congressmen who will advance their interests.
  

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