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Reply #20 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 6:23pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Wouldn’t you say that his excuse was that it “was necessary?”

That is your excuse for government’s usurpation of property rights, isn’t it?  That taxing “is necessary?”
Taxation is necessary to fund the legitimate functions of government...

So you're saying that securing bank loans and preventing "hoarding" are legitimate functions of government.

FDR "needed" lots of money to fund his New Deal programs. The Keynesian theory was that the Federal Reserve Bank would loan it to him, but obviously they made a deal, FDR would confiscate people's gold and give it to the Fed, and in return, the Fed would bail out the banks and fund the New Deal with phony money.

Edit: A granted power of limited taxation is not a usurpation of anything.

FDR's gold confiscation by Executive Order was a usurpation of legislative power.


  

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Reply #21 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 7:28pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Wouldn’t you say that his excuse was that it “was necessary?”

That is your excuse for government’s usurpation of property rights, isn’t it?  That taxing “is necessary?”

That is pretty much how all evil is excused.  I guess I should not be surprised that you are concerned enough to mention that FDR usurped the legislative power, but not concerned enough to mention that FDR usurped the right to property.



Government is a death pact.  Got it.  Very persuasive.  We all need to die to be free.  We all die, totalitarians replace us, and then we are free.  Very persuasive.  May I have another?
  

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Reply #22 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:18pm
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ahhell wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:01am:
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.


The door swings both ways huh?

The main reason why I would choose Scottsdale if I stay in America is that it is one of, if not the most conservative cities in America.  I can't stand being near any leftists.  I don't want to share any space or conversation or even the air with those fukks. 

Also, Arizona allows concealed carry and I like that.  An armed society is a safe and polite society.

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Reply #23 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:48pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:18pm:
The door swings both ways huh?

The main reason why I would choose Scottsdale if I stay in America is that it is one of, if not the most conservative cities in America.  I can't stand being near any leftists.  I don't want to share any space or conversation or even the air with those fukks. 

Also, Arizona allows concealed carry and I like that.  An armed society is a safe and polite society.

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LBM thinks that freedom means he doesn't have to pay for it.  Government builds roads, protects him from foreign invasion, provides security if anyone attacks his property, and it's all free!!!!  That's what freedom is to the douche ...  Other people paying his bills!
  

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Reply #24 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 9:03pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
LBM thinks that freedom means he doesn't have to pay for it.  Government builds roads, protects him from foreign invasion, provides security if anyone attacks his property, and it's all free!!!!  That's what freedom is to the douche ...  Other people paying his bills!


This is common thinking with democrats.  Before when I worked in an office, they would renovate and remodel every few years and my co-slaves would be so happy.  New cubicles and monitors!  When I told them that it was actually they who were paying for it all and that I would rather have no upgrades but a fatter paycheck it didn't go down well with them.

LBM told me that he thinks we should go do all we can to help the illegal detainees at the border and I told him to go adopt one of those families and squirmed out of the conversation.

Yeah, why not?  If you care about them so much then bring them into your home.  Give them some spending cash, access to your fridge and find them work.
  
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Reply #25 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 6:51am
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I'm curious as to how "crappity smack" got into a thread title?

Let me experiment- crappity smack America

Well, that didn't work...
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:28am
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yamcha wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
This is common thinking with democrats.  Before when I worked in an office, they would renovate and remodel every few years and my co-slaves would be so happy.  New cubicles and monitors!  When I told them that it was actually they who were paying for it all and that I would rather have no upgrades but a fatter paycheck it didn't go down well with them.


You were slaves?  Your bosses didn't pay you to work there?  Then why did you do it?  And how were you paying for it?  You risked your own money investing in an idea where you would lose everything if it didn't work?  No, your bosses did.  I think they probably paid you too, didn't they?  Taking a paycheck in a voluntary association isn't being a slave.  You didn't pay for any of that.   

You took no risk.  You took a job with an agreed upon pay structure.  They paid you to do a task.  And you accepted because it was your best offer.  It wasn't your money to decide you wanted a bigger check, it was theirs to decide what was best for the company.  And you to decide what's best for you.

You're demonstrating in yourself the attitude you're correctly mocking in LBM
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:55am
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kaz wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:28am:
You were slaves?  Your bosses didn't pay you to work there?  Then why did you do it?  And how were you paying for it?  You risked your own money investing in an idea where you would lose everything if it didn't work?  No, your bosses did.  I think they probably paid you too, didn't they?  Taking a paycheck in a voluntary association isn't being a slave.  You didn't pay for any of that.   

You took no risk.  You took a job with an agreed upon pay structure.  They paid you to do a task.  And you accepted because it was your best offer.  It wasn't your money to decide you wanted a bigger check, it was theirs to decide what was best for the company.  And you to decide what's best for you.

You're demonstrating in yourself the attitude you're correctly mocking in LBM


No no.  I fully get it.  The owners to the risk every time they decided to go with my idea.  And if my idea was a dud they would have to eat it not me, I get that.  And of course, no one forced me to work anywhere.  But all this was when I was younger and didn't know better.  I thought that being an employee was the safest way but now I know it is actually the riskiest way to make a living.

Many employees believe getting a job is the safest and most secure way to support themselves.

Morons.

Social conditioning is amazing. It’s so good it can even make people believe the exact opposite of the truth.

Does putting yourself in a position where someone else can turn off all your income just by saying two words (“You’re fired”) sound like a safe and secure situation to you? Does having only one income stream honestly sound more secure than having 10?

The idea that a job is the most secure way to generate income is just silly. You can’t have security if you don’t have control, and employees have the least control of anyone. If you’re an employee, then your real job title should be professional gambler.
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 9:39am
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yamcha wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:55am:
No no.  I fully get it.  The owners to the risk every time they decided to go with my idea.  And if my idea was a dud they would have to eat it not me, I get that.  And of course, no one forced me to work anywhere.  But all this was when I was younger and didn't know better.  I thought that being an employee was the safest way but now I know it is actually the riskiest way to make a living.

Many employees believe getting a job is the safest and most secure way to support themselves.

Morons.

Social conditioning is amazing. It’s so good it can even make people believe the exact opposite of the truth.

Does putting yourself in a position where someone else can turn off all your income just by saying two words (“You’re fired”) sound like a safe and secure situation to you? Does having only one income stream honestly sound more secure than having 10?

The idea that a job is the most secure way to generate income is just silly. You can’t have security if you don’t have control, and employees have the least control of anyone. If you’re an employee, then your real job title should be professional gambler.


The safest situation for employees is a robust job market where they can be hired and fired at will.  That creates competition between companies for the best employees.  Free competition is the golden goose.

I know it predates you, but just FYI Little Bi(g/q) Man are socks for a poster who used to be on the board named Don.  Don was a socialist who went off the deep end and got banned.  Can you imagine getting banned on this board?

Don is an avowed socialist.  He pretended he was from British Columbia.  You can see the socialist attitudes seep through from LBM.  You also always see that Don was a troll, and his socks are always trolls too.  That's why he's pretending to be an anarchist, to troll the board.  He can say you think YOU'RE a libertarian???   I'm a libertarian!!!!!!  So he calls anyone who supports any government at all in any way a statist.

Don's a lot of things.  Clever isn't one of them
  

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Reply #29 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 7:44pm
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kaz,  I don't know what the fụcking deal is here.  There are only a handful of active members and now some of them are alter egos now?  Great, whatever.

I just know that Oppo is intelligent but he has mental issues and plays the same tune every day.  He is basically an OCD nerd.

LBM is a communist woman with sand in her pussy.

Jeff actually knows a lot but he is a redneck.  The main problem is his natural anti-intellectual instincts. He sabotages himself all the time.  His first reaction to any new idea is not to contemplate it but to shoot it down.  It's weird.
  
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