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Nov 6th, 2019 at 12:37pm
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This is wonderful:

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A mini horse that serves as a Bay Area resident’s service animal was allowed on a commuter train in San Francisco Tuesday, the transit agency said.

The horse’s owner provided paperwork to a transit worker on the BART train and the horse was cleared for entry, the train system said on Twitter.

“After consultation (station agents usually don’t see horses), the horse was allowed in,” BART said in the message.

“Trained service animals assisting people w/ disabilities and on leash are welcome on BART,” they added.

News of the pony on the train touched off a string of social media posts in support of the animal.

“Forget emotional support dogs… in SF we have emotional support MINI HORSES,” one Twitter user wrote.

BART had a major delay tonight but I would do it all over again if I could see this pony,” another added.


Taxes are paid by people who need emotional support animals, be they large or small (the animals, not the people).  People with large service animals should not be discriminated against by being barred from public transportation and people with small or no service animals cannot be favored by being allowed to ride.

This must be applied to air travel as well since security is provided through taxes.  Adequate space on planes for large service animals must be made available.

Privately owned businesses, clubs and private homes may be exempted from the requirement that they be made accessible to individuals with service animals.   But only so long as the business or home is not supported by taxes including being made accessible via tax-funded roads.

If a private business, club or home is accessed via a tax funded roadway, on vehicles made safe through tax-funded inspections and regulations, and protected by a tax-funded military, discrimination against large service animals must not be allowed.  They should be made available to all.


BART should be applauded, but if delays in commuting are to be prevented, the trains must be upgraded for easier accessibility.
  

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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 12:53pm
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You're being facetious, of course.     As you should be.

Government forcing people to be in the proximity of emotional support animals is absurd.

It's another brick in the wall of socialism.

  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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I want an emotional support elephant.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:22pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
You're being facetious, of course.     As you should be.

Government forcing people to be in the proximity of emotional support animals is absurd.

It's another brick in the wall of socialism.



I am being facetious, but probably not in the way you think.  Obviously, I want a world in which government does not take money at gunpoint to build public transportation.  However, once they do, it become a matter of pure politics who has access to it.  My ridicule is of the idea that we can levy taxes on everyone and not make absolutely sure that everyone benefits from what they are spent on.

People with a true need for emotional support animals will argue that they need them on public transportation as well, just as do people with orientation support animals, formerly known as "seeing eye dogs."  If the counter is that they do not need public transportation, then why have public transportation at all?

I'm particularly interested in how Jeff and Kaz will respond to this:

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If a private business, club or home is accessed via a tax funded roadway, on vehicles made safe through tax-funded inspections and regulations, and protected by a tax funded military, discrimination against large service animals must not be allowed.  They should be made available to all.


They both have accused me of being a freeloader since I voluntarily use tax-funded benefits by driving on roads and living under the protection of the military.




  

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Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:46pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
I'm particularly interested in how Jeff and Kaz will respond to this:

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If a private business, club or home is accessed via a tax funded roadway, on vehicles made safe through tax-funded inspections and regulations, and protected by a tax-funded military, discrimination against large service animals must not be allowed.  They should be made available to all.


Me too.   Smiley
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:51pm
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This one deserves being ignored too!
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:08pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
I'm particularly interested in how Jeff and Kaz will respond to this:


They both have accused me of being a freeloader since I voluntarily use tax-funded benefits by driving on roads and living under the protection of the military.






Yes, you don't want to pay your bills.

So I don't get it.  You drive on the roads all the time and you have to pay for them.  And that you pay for the roads you drive on entitles you to take a horse on an airplane?

You really are determined to get something for free, aren't you, dead beat?
  

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SkyChief wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
You're being facetious, of course.     As you should be.

Government forcing people to be in the proximity of emotional support animals is absurd.

It's another brick in the wall of socialism.

You've lost your mind Chief.
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 6:27pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
And that you pay for the roads you drive on entitles you to take a horse on an airplane?

Yes, of course, but multiple SCOTUS rulings seem to indicate that the owners of the air carriers in question probably can't be forced to provide free (and safe) seats (and snacks) for companion horses, unless it seems necessary to accommodate someone.

More cases will have to work their way through the courts until, finally, maybe, someone will figure it out.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 6:50pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
You're being facetious, of course.     As you should be.

Government forcing people to be in the proximity of emotional support animals is absurd.

It's another brick in the wall of socialism.



Yes.  The term "support animal" shouldn't exist in regard to any government law or in any other government way.  It should be up to markets to decide
  

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