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Re: Emotional Support Horses Must be Allowed on Public Accommodations
Reply #30 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 11:44am
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kaz wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 11:42am:
So where did you drive on government roads today?


I drove to work.    Since government roads are funded by taxes, I should have taken an alternative route. 

Which would be . . . .?
  

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Reply #31 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:24pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 10:49am:
Exactly my point.  If government funds a service, it must be available to everyone or at least every taxpayer.

But . . . By the standard that even using a road to get from your private home to your private business whose customers use the roads to patronize your business means that you are supported by taxes, and you are a free loader if you do not want to pay taxes, then no business can discriminate based on disability.

That is Kaz’ position, is it yours also?

No, but it sounds like something Obama said...

If you drive on roads, it's almost impossible to not pay taxes that build and maintain them, but claiming that because of that fact, the government can control your business is absurd.

Not even the way you phrased your question makes any sense.

The idea that a private business that is "open to the public" (Who else would your business serve?) means that you must serve all of the public is also absurd. The government, which does provide "public services" (like courts) must be available to everyone... But private businesses are not "public services", they are private businesses, even if they are located on public roads.
  

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Reply #32 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:30pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 11:27am:
I think the real question is who should answer that question.  For a libertarian the answer is clear:  the individual.

Yes, but we're talking about a government owned and operated, taxpayer supported train, which is why the idiocy arose in the first place.

Maybe a case can be made that city owned and operated buses must allow companion horses to ride them (and provide special horse ramps and stalls on every bus?), but privately owned and operated buses can say, "sorry, no animals allowed unless they fit in a pet carrier that will fit in the cargo bay, and we charge extra for transporting them."
  

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Reply #33 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:33pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 11:44am:
I drove to work.    Since government roads are funded by taxes, I should have taken an alternative route. 

Which would be . . . .?


Actually, that question is for you since you're saying government roads are optional.  You really are an idiot.

LBM:  Oh yeah, kaz!  You say there's no alternative to government roads?  Well!!!  What's the alternative, then!!!!!

So LBM, you don't want to pay for them even though you use them, so how are you going to not use them?  Well?
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:10pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:33pm:
Actually, that question is for you since you're saying government roads are optional.  You really are an idiot.


I said roads are possible without government building them...    Obviously government roads are not optional, they exist and are ubiquitous.  So much so, that it would be impossible for me to get from my house to my job without at least crossing them.

You cannot say that I should be hemmed in by roads and that I am a freeloader if I cross them to get to my job.  We you can, but a logical person would not.

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So LBM, you don't want to pay for them even though you use them, so how are you going to not use them?  Well?


I’m required to use them on pain of being imprisoned in my house and starving.  That is not voluntary. 

Are you doing that thing where you pretend to be dense or is this real?
  

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Reply #35 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:13pm
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Thanks for reminding me! Kiss Kiss Kiss

I'm going to go look for the performance specs for California commuter trains. Smiley

Later. Kiss Kiss
  

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Reply #36 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:14pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:10pm:
Are you doing that thing where you pretend to be dense or is this real?
Yes.
  

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Reply #37 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:23pm
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Perhaps the current "progressive" Ideal is providing for necessary prescribed comfort animals in any and every common carrier?

What if I am comforted living among Komodo Dragons, and need one with me at all times?

Can I get on the train too?

That sounds far from Ideal.
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:40pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:23pm:
Perhaps the current "progressive" Ideal is providing for necessary prescribed comfort animals in any and every common carrier?

What if I am comforted living among Komodo Dragons, and need one with me at all times?

Can I get on the train too?

That sounds far from Ideal.


Do your taxes support the train?  Why should you and your dragon be excluded then,   If you cannot travel without it? 

Do you also oppose wheelchair lifts on school buses?






  

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