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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 5:18pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
If he was defrauding anyone, the IRS would already know that as he's under continual audit.  That obviously isn't the case
Which is it? has he been audited every year since, when? Or not?

How do you know this?

Even if true, the results of the audit aren't public information.

Where can I see the tax filings and the audit results? Thanks for linking me up... Smiley
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:44pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Schiff lied and said he didn't know the identity of the whistleblower.    Predictable.   


  

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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:50pm
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
Who cares, just as long as some light is shined on the deep state.
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:32pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
Last time they did that, the consensus reaction was wow, Trump pays a lot of taxes.   I know you're fascinated by what he paid and you don't care about Constitutional rights, but think about it. If he was defrauding anyone, the IRS would already know that as he's under continual audit.  That obviously isn't the case


Yes, that is exactly right.

The Dems are hoping that the public will be shocked, shocked!  They will learn that Trump has a huge gross income but that all his deductions allow him to pay a relatively smaller tax on that income. 

Yes, the rich pay a far lower percent of their income in taxes than Joe the Plumber and Josephine the cop.  I mean the very rich, not doctors and engineers who cannot even write off student debt payments, I mean Donald Trump, George Soros, The Hunt Brothers, Ben and Jerry, etc.  Those are the people who own the twoparties, so of course they are not going to pay a whole bunch of taxes, duh.

They get all the protection of their shipping lanes, kids dying to protect their oil supply and regulations that keep competitors from decreasing their profit margins.  In a system like ours, the rich absolutely own the government, but Trump made the "mistake" of actually going down a level by being the president. 

He thinks he is at the top of the pyramid, because he has top of the pyramid money.  So he not only does not have a wealthy master like Bebe Reboso or the Saudi Royal Family, he doesn't make deals with twoparties members to keep from pissing off their wealthy masters.

If they actually vote to impeach, 2020 may be the biggest electoral landslide in history.
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:11pm
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I finally got a chance to watch the hearing.

I loved when Jordan (I think) told Taylor that he had no first-hand knowledge of anything at all that he was testifying to.  "So-and-so told so-and-so that he had heard so-and-so say . .  "  Then he read some actual testimony and it were exactly that if not worse.   He said, "and you're their star witness?"  Taylor couldn't keep a straight face.  I thought he was about to bust out laughing. 

He knows. 

I guess I give him props for being willing to help his fellow dems take another swing at impeachment.  A swing and a miss, obviously.  What is this, like strike seven?  Or do the dems think they are just fouling off pitches waiting for the hanging curveball across the numbers to finally come in.

That other guy, Kent the Bowtie Man, took the whole thing really seriously, just like he obviously takes himself.  He probably wasn't thinking about how bad he and Taylor looked.  He likely was put out that Jordon had not said, "and you two are the star witnesses?" 

Jeff is that what you mean by narcisism?



   

  
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Little Biq Man wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
In a system like ours, the rich absolutely own the government...
That's not actually our system of government, it's a reversion to the kind of government the Revolutionary War was fought to get rid of.
  

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Little Biq Man wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:11pm:
I finally got a chance to watch the hearing.

I loved when Jordan (I think) told Taylor that he had no first-hand knowledge of anything at all that he was testifying to.  "So-and-so told so-and-so that he had heard so-and-so say . .  "  Then he read some actual testimony and it were exactly that if not worse.   He said, "and you're their star witness?"  Taylor couldn't keep a straight face.  I thought he was about to bust out laughing. 

He knows. 

I guess I give him props for being willing to help his fellow dems take another swing at impeachment.  A swing and a miss, obviously.  What is this, like strike seven?  Or do the dems think they are just fouling off pitches waiting for the hanging curveball across the numbers to finally come in.

That other guy, Kent the Bowtie Man, took the whole thing really seriously, just like he obviously takes himself.  He probably wasn't thinking about how bad he and Taylor looked.  He likely was put out that Jordon had not said, "and you two are the star witnesses?" 
It's early in the hearings, they're setting the stage. You have to assume that the various named "so-and-so's" will be called to testify too.

Will there be lots of posturing and political theater on both sides? Of course.

Do we know yet if anybody is lying or not, for certain? I don't, but my inclination is to think they are all lying.

Here's an article exemplifying how they all feel about transparency:

https://reason.com/2019/11/13/is-trumps-epa-seeking-to-gut-good-science/?utm_med...

From the article:

"House of Representatives Science, Space, and Technology Committee Chairwoman Eddie Bernice Johnson (D–Texas) declared, "The requirement for data to be publicly available is nothing more than an attempt to undercut EPA's mandate to use the best available science."
  

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Reply #17 - Nov 15th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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More hearings today.  They are interviewing former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

To the horror of the committee, Ambassador Yovanovitch claimed that she was "kneecapped".

She is bitter because she was FIRED as Ambassador.

“I mean, after 33 years of service to our country it was terrible. It's not the way I wanted my career to end.”

Via Twitter, Trump chimed in:

"Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors."

Yovanovitch complained:

‘I did’ feel threatened and ‘devastated’ by Trump’s comments."

Impeachment Czar Schiff called Trump's comment "Witness Intimidation":

“What we saw today is, it wasn’t enough that Ambassador Yovanovitch was smeared. It wasn’t enough that she was attacked. . . But we saw today - witness intimidation in real-time by the President of the United States. . . We take this kind of witness intimidation and obstruction of the inquiry very seriously.”

It's looking pretty bad for Trump.   Another charge of obstruction added to his long list of High Crimes...
  

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Reply #18 - Nov 15th, 2019 at 12:27pm
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Little Biq Man wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Yes, that is exactly right.

Who got to see the numbers in these purported earlier exposures of Trump's tax returns?
  

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SkyChief wrote on Nov 15th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
More hearings today.  They are interviewing former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

To the horror of the committee, Ambassador Yovanovitch claimed that she was "kneecapped".

She is bitter because she was FIRED as Ambassador.

“I mean, after 33 years of service to our country it was terrible. It's not the way I wanted my career to end.”

Via Twitter, Trump chimed in:

"Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors."

Yovanovitch complained:

‘I did’ feel threatened and ‘devastated’ by Trump’s comments."

Impeachment Czar Schiff called Trump's comment "Witness Intimidation":

“What we saw today is, it wasn’t enough that Ambassador Yovanovitch was smeared. It wasn’t enough that she was attacked. . . But we saw today - witness intimidation in real-time by the President of the United States. . . We take this kind of witness intimidation and obstruction of the inquiry very seriously.”

It's looking pretty bad for Trump.   Another charge of obstruction added to his long list of High Crimes...
She was already fired, how can he intimidate her now?

Anyway, she's obviously going to be a hostile witness, as is most of the deep state I think. They all live in the swamp Trump promised t drain.
  

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