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Reply #100 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 3:56pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 7:54am:
It's "gullible" to think it was for a developer rather than Pfizer where I took the same position as you did?  Huh, you're trying to match Jeff with being a bickering, nagging old biddy now?


What a disingenuous argument.  Of course they would have their own security to protect their own property, that's a different subject.  They would  buy the police to control them like the mob did, to take out competitors and block opposition.  While the rich have higher influence now, there is voting and they can only go so far.  There are also other government agencies to limit them, like the courts and legislature that you want to do away with completely.


So why don’t they just vote out the governments that are owned by the organized crime?  Oh, yeah.  Organized crime controls the voting and the counting of the votes.  If the rich paid for the government, they would make sure organized crime could not take it over.

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The thing is that since you're a socialist, you know this.  I've already pointed out that since you aren't actually an anarchist, your arguments sound as fake as they are.  You're sitting there thinking what should you argue as an anarchist.  It sounds totally phony.  Even you can't be dumb enough to think that people like you will give enough the police to have any control over them while the rich give millions to have them as their on call military force when they want something from others


They do that now.

Why else are we sending our best and brightest young men and women to the Middle East?


  

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Reply #101 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 4:05pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
So why don’t they just vote out the governments that are owned by the organized crime?  Oh, yeah.  Organized crime controls the voting and the counting of the votes.  If the rich paid for the government, they would make sure organized crime could not take it over.


Obviously the rich don't totally control the government since as you know they pay almost all the taxes despite that they don't earn practically all the money.  You want to change that to that the police are their personal army.  Any price is worth it to you so don't have to pay for driving on roads, huh, little guy?  A coward dies a thousand deaths.  So does a cheap bastard who will do anything to not pay your own bills


Little Big Man wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
They do that now.

Why else are we sending our best and brightest young men and women to the Middle East?




Socialists are blocking us from fully exploiting domestic energy production, why do you ask?
  

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Reply #102 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 6:46pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
Socialists are blocking us from fully exploiting domestic energy production, why do you ask?
A very good point that I haven't heard anyone mention in years. Thanks.
  

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Reply #103 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:49am
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kaz wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
Socialists are blocking us from fully exploiting domestic energy production, why do you ask?


On a libertarian forum, I guess blaming socialists is an easy out of a losing argument.  Even some “libertarians” on here who sincerely believe in the absolute right of “the community” to take property for the common good will say they hate socialists.

But the fact that across party lines, our government forbids domestic drilling and sends our young to die protecting foreign oil sources is more a function of the influence of the Saudi Royal family than socialist thought.

The Saudi Royal family outright owned the Bush family and Obama didn’t bow to the Saudi king because he likes being ridiculed by Rush Limbaugh.

Nice try, though.  I guess.


  

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Reply #104 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:58am
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:49am:
On a libertarian forum, I guess blaming socialists is an easy out of a losing argument.  Even some “libertarians” on here who sincerely believe in the absolute right of “the community” to take property for the common good will say they hate socialists.

But the fact that across party lines, our government forbids domestic drilling and sends our young to die protecting foreign oil sources is more a function of the influence of the Saudi Royal family than socialist thought.

The Saudi Royal family outright owned the Bush family and Obama didn’t bow to the Saudi king because he likes being ridiculed by Rush Limbaugh.

Nice try, though.  I guess.




Bull shit.  It's the Democrat party that blocks domestic energy production and fights it every step of the way.  Just more of your stupid socialist crap through your "libertarian" sock.

In their typical style, while Republicans are often right in what they say, like on domestic energy production, but they are utterly useless.  Trump has done a few minor tweaks, but where is an unshackle production proposal?
  

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Reply #105 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 9:43am
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kaz wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:58am:
Bull shit.  It's the Democrat party that blocks domestic energy production and fights it every step of the way.  Just more of your stupid socialist crap through your "libertarian" sock.


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In their typical style, while Republicans are often right in what they say, like on domestic energy production, but they are utterly useless.  Trump has done a few minor tweaks, but where is an unshackle production proposal?


Trump is not owned by the Saudi Royal family, but he needs his Republican Party faithful and he knows that they are.  As badly as he is reacting to the impending impeachment, he would surely hate to be removed by the Senate.  So he keeps them happy by not putting them in the awkward position of having to choose between the good of the American people and the will of their foreign wealthy sponsors.


  

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Reply #106 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 10:09am
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 9:43am:
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 9:43am:
Trump is not owned by the Saudi Royal family, but he needs his Republican Party faithful and he knows that they are.  As badly as he is reacting to the impending impeachment, he would surely hate to be removed by the Senate.  So he keeps them happy by not putting them in the awkward position of having to choose between the good of the American people and the will of their foreign wealthy sponsors.




Your Marxist rhetoric has been on overdrive lately.  Trump hasn't really done shit.  His tax cut was lame.  His spending is out of control.  I don't see any reason to think his lack of follow up on what he said he would do is calculated as he hasn't really followed up on anything else either.

The reason the economy exploded was just that business wasn't as afraid of him as they were afraid of your beloved Marxist Obama.  Not being afraid unleashed spending and investment.  Trump has done nothing really to help it other than that
  

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Reply #107 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 1:23pm
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I thought this to be a clear summary of politics in America today:

https://reason.com/2019/11/18/mutual-hatred-is-all-democrats-and-republicans-hav...

"What defines a Republican, these days? How about a Democrat? That's a difficult question to answer. After years of shifting priorities and ideologies, the beliefs of Republicans of today bear little resemblance to those of somebody of that affiliation from a decade ago, and the modern Democrat is just as far removed from recent predecessors. But one thing is clear: Republicans aren't Democrats and hate anybody who is, and Democrats feel the same about Republicans."
  

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Reply #108 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:12am
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That guy Vindman - sorry, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman - was asked WTTE of, “what it the process by which US foreign policy toward Ukraine is formed?”  In answer, he gave his job description, which to me sounded like “I form it.”

The questioner didn’t call him on it.  The correct answer - “the American people vote for the president, based in part on his foreign policy platform and then the president tells bureaucrats like me what the policy is so we can execute it,” never seemed to occur to him.

This seems to be the whole of the impeachment presentation:  one witness after another to say, “I’m a long serving bureaucrat and I disapprove of the president’s approach to foreign policy.”

When both Vindman and the blonde said that the Transcript Trump released was accurate, that should have been the end of it. 

Oh, well better they’re giving us circuses rather than bread.  This particular circus is a little boring, but they really suck at providing the bread.
  

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Reply #109 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:37am
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Little Big Man wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:49am:
On a libertarian forum, I guess blaming socialists is an easy out of a losing argument.  Even some “libertarians” on here who sincerely believe in the absolute right of “the community” to take property for the common good will say they hate socialists.

But the fact that across party lines, our government forbids domestic drilling and sends our young to die protecting foreign oil sources is more a function of the influence of the Saudi Royal family than socialist thought.

The Saudi Royal family outright owned the Bush family and Obama didn’t bow to the Saudi king because he likes being ridiculed by Rush Limbaugh.

Nice try, though.  I guess.


I disagree. The Green faction of the Democratic Socialist Party has been very effective, through propaganda, and lawsuits, and influencing Congresscritters, in limiting energy production (and generation) in the U.S. for many decades now.

Deep state bureaucrats in the EPA have aided them, and so have the courts.
  

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