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Re: Jeff, why do you always have to be a dick?
Reply #50 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 4:00pm
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Kaz:  "Jeff says he believes in consent of the governed, but he made up his own definition for it where your great, great, great, great grandfather can consent on your behalf"

Jeff wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 9:24am:
My belief is that classical liberals understood that consent was granted when the Constitution was ratified by the People, and that as long as the People maintain the right to alter the government by legal means, that consent is maintained


OK, so you could have just said I'm right, you think your great, great, great, great grandfather can consent for you on your behalf.

If you want to believe that, it's fine, but don't call it "consent of the governed" because you are making up your own definition of a term that clearly doesn't mean that.  It's the stupid way you argue.  You make up words and definitions that happen to be words already being used in the discussion then try to conflate the real meaning with your made up meaning
  

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Reply #51 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 4:06pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 9:30am:
The CSA was constituted as a separate nation simply because the slave states could see the handwriting on the wall. When enough free states were admitted to the Union, the Constitution was going to be amended to abolish slavery.

All of the writings of the Founding Fathers of the Confederacy were concerned with the preservation and extension of human chattel slavery. No libertarian or classical liberal would choose the CSA over the Union of free states... But you do.


Jeff:  See, kaz, here's how it works.  If I don't like the CSA, then viola, I'm not violating their consent of the governed by conquering them!

My point was about consent of the governed.  Think about your argument.  Do you like college football, well then, you like Joe Paterno protecting a child molester!  That's another of your stupid arguments. 

To support one point regarding the CSA means to support everything about the CSA!  No, actually it doesn't, it just shows your overt stupidity and intellectually lazy debate skills.  That I support consent of the government does not imply that I agree with the reason any particular citizens who stopped consenting stopped consenting.  And your standard in this is one you never apply to your side of a disagreement, not now, not ever
  

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Reply #52 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:03pm
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Yawn.

I hope somebody posted something better than this.
  

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Reply #53 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:39pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:03pm:
Yawn.

I hope somebody posted something better than this.


I'm thinking that since you're posting on a libertarian message board, your view that government can conquer it's citizens is in the minority.  John Locke (father of classic liberalism) and the Founding Fathers sure the hell don't agree with you either, and they said so.

Thomas Jefferson:  "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Jeff the Hillbilly:  If your great, great, great, great grandfather consented, then you consented.  Deal with it
  

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Reply #54 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:52pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:39pm:
I'm thinking that since you're posting on a libertarian message board, your view that government can conquer it's citizens is in the minority.  John Locke (father of classic liberalism) and the Founding Fathers sure the hell don't agree with you either, and they said so.

Thomas Jefferson:  "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Jeff the Hillbilly:  If your great, great, great, great grandfather consented, then you consented.  Deal with it
Have you ever met a real dick, in real life? Before me I mean.
  

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Reply #55 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:03pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 5:39pm:
Jeff the Hillbilly:  If your great, great, great, great grandfather consented, then you consented.  Deal with it


Malcolm X style.
  
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Reply #56 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:33pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:03pm:
Malcolm X style.
kaz?

Perhaps... How do you mean it?
  

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Reply #57 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:47pm
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"Your father isn't here to pay.  My father isn't here to collect.  But I'm here to collect and you're here to pay"
-Malcolm Jeff
  
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Reply #58 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:53pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:47pm:
"Your father isn't here to pay.  My father isn't here to collect.  But I'm here to collect and you're here to pay"
-Malcolm X
He actually said that, right? It was a goal of the revolution of his time, to make everything, past, present and future, better.

It still won't work.
  

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Re: Jeff, why do you always have to be a dick?
Reply #59 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 7:35pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:53pm:
He actually said that, right? It was a goal of the revolution of his time, to make everything, past, present and future, better.

It still won't work.


Malcolm and King niggers were bad for niggers.  Thomas D. Rice and Mohammed Ali got it right.

After touring Africa and seeing how niggers naturally live. Ali said: "I'm sure glad my great-great-great-great-great granddaddy caught the boat."

Niggers need to be grateful or deleted.
  
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