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Reply #20 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:10pm
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In order to rape a woman, he must have a pecker.  Maybe that is his point?  haha!

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Reply #21 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:12pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:10pm:
In order to rape a woman, he must have a thingy.  Maybe that is his point?  haha!

Jeff fantasizes about raping women and molesting children from his wheelchair.


Yep.  And Opposition either cut his manhood off or it fell off as it shriveled from complete neglect
  

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Reply #22 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:19pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Bull shit.  Negative rights are legitimate, positive rights aren't legitimate at all in any way.


But is any negative right legitimate? That's my main question.

kaz wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Opposition kept saying that he is being oppressed by libertarians.  I said positive rights aren't legitimate or libertarian.  He said no, he means libertarians are oppressing him with negative rights.

Sure, the stupid little bitch.  So libertarians are telling him he can't murder us ... and ... he can't rape our wives and daughters ... and ... he can't break and enter our houses and steal from us.

The poor dear, yeah, screw him


You do tell me I can't have a tiger, because you think I'd abuse it.

Also anything else I want. Every time another reason, and every time the answer is no.

If you don't think that's oppression, then that's not oppression. The facts are that the government says yes, in certain states, I can have a tiger. Libertarians say no.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #23 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:21pm
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kaz,

I was listening to a talk on libertarianism vs conservatism last night.  Some professor said that libertarianism cannot be sustainable on a large scale for any great length of time because libertarian principles are too self-serving and that libertarians always find ways to be aggressed.

I don't know if I completely agree, however, there is not fully libertarian state as of right now.

I can see how a small town of less than a few thousand can be libertarian but not a nation of tens of millions.

What do you think?  And why do you think there are so few libertarian voters?  It can't be because everyone is stupid, considering how attractive libertarian principles sound even to the uninitiated.
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:25pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
kaz,

I was listening to a talk on libertarianism vs conservatism last night.  Some professor said that libertarianism cannot be sustainable on a large scale for any great length of time because libertarian principles are too self-serving and that libertarians always find ways to be aggressed.

I don't know if I completely agree, however, there is not fully libertarian state as of right now.

I can see how a small town of less than a few thousand can be libertarian but not a nation of tens of millions.

What do you think?  And why do you think there are so few libertarian voters?  It can't be because everyone is stupid, considering how attractive libertarian principles sound even to the uninitiated.


Sure, two questions:

1) Name another ideology that isn't selfish (hint, there are none)

2) Name another ideology that says I'm acting in my own interest, but I'll respect your right to act in YOUR own interest.  Hint, there are none ...
  

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Reply #25 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:32pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Sure, two questions:

1) Name another ideology that isn't selfish (hint, there are none)

2) Name another ideology that says I'm acting in my own interest, but I'll respect your right to act in YOUR own interest.  Hint, there are none ...


Well if you're gonna fukking answer the questions for me then fukking forget it!

And fukking the answer to both questions is Jainism, which is the oldest and most advanced form of libertarianism.  Jain text makes NAP look like it's written by a kid.

By the way, Oppo, stop worshipping NAP.  It's just an idea and not really living.  Live my friend and stop bitching about libertarians being aggressive!  I don't like your constant message of violence here!
  
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Reply #26 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:32pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:10pm:
In order to rape a woman, he must have a pecker.  Maybe that is his point?  haha!

Jeff fantasizes about raping women and molesting children from his wheelchair.
You're such a card! I bet you could write for SNL.
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:34pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
kaz,

I was listening to a talk on libertarianism vs conservatism last night.  Some professor said that libertarianism cannot be sustainable on a large scale for any great length of time because libertarian principles are too self-serving and that libertarians always find ways to be aggressed.

"Some professor"? Obama claimed to have been a professor... Maybe he's still at it?
  

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Reply #28 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:37pm
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yamcha wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 6:55pm:
Negative rights are just as legitimate as positive rights and both must be protected the same way, through the threat of violent defense and retaliation.
Ha ha. What legitimizes your right to not be offended? The 'right' that will force me to keep quite and not say things about your Mom. You know, if I wanted to, which I don't.

There are people who are offended by the very mention of rights! Screw them I say! Smiley Smiley Smiley
  

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Reply #29 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:42pm
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kaz wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Sure, two questions:

1) Name another ideology that isn't selfish (hint, there are none)

2) Name another ideology that says I'm acting in my own interest, but I'll respect your right to act in YOUR own interest.  Hint, there are none ...
Acting in your own interest is necessary, not selfish. If you won't (or can't) act in your own self interest, someone will have to take care of you, or you will wither and die.

The ideology of liberatianism is not selfish, not at all.
It offers equal rights and equal protections of those rights for everyone.
  

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