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House Democrats Sneak In PATRIOT ACT Extension
Nov 20th, 2019 at 10:37pm
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi forced many members who oppose the Patriot Act to vote in favor of its extension.

"We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."

The PATRIOT Act pushes aside the 4th Amendment and gives government the power to surveil US citizens without their knowledge.

Government has the power to conduct;

• Records searches.

• Secret searches.

• Intelligence searches.

• "Trap and trace" searches.

• Wiretaps

"Any time power is granted to the government, it is done so at the expense of the liberty of the governed."  - SkyChief

https://www.aclu.org/other/surveillance-under-usapatriot-act
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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Re: House Democrats Sneak In PATRIOT ACT Extension
Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 11:10pm
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This shows you where they really stand-- NOWHERE.

It's weird since the Patriot Act was a Bush republican initiative pushed under post 9/11 pressure and 100% of Dems were against it at the time.

It shows that the Democrats do not have a true value system but just do whatever it is that is against conservatives.

So if a republican president wants war they will say no but he he wants to not intervene they will also say no.
  
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Re: House Democrats Sneak In PATRIOT ACT Extension
Reply #2 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 9:56am
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yamcha wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 11:10pm:
This shows you where they really stand-- NOWHERE.

It's weird since the Patriot Act was a Bush republican initiative pushed under post 9/11 pressure and 100% of Dems were against it at the time.

It shows that the Democrats do not have a true value system but just do whatever it is that is against conservatives.

So if a republican president wants war they will say no but he he wants to not intervene they will also say no.
Agreed, but wasn't Bush a member of the Compassionate Conservative Party? ( I translated that as "Democrat".)

The conservatives I know (a small sample, to be sure) believe in compassion on an individual, voluntary level, maybe going so far as to combine their efforts voluntarily through a Church... But they don't believe in "compassion" engineered by government bureaucrats or mandated by government policy, that's the "progressive" idea.
  

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