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How should USA (United States of America) Constitution be amended?
Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:23pm
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The supremacy clause should say "This Constitution and all nonamended Amendments of this Constitution are the supreme law of all locations that the United States (of America) has jurisdiction of." because "This Constitution", that was wrote in supremacy clause, signals that the USA has perhaps another Constitution secretly being used, and"land" could perhaps mean just a piece of land somewhere instead of the total amounts of lands that the United States of America has jurisdiction of.
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:43pm
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No one seems willing to reply...

Me neither. Smiley
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:45pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:23pm:
..."land" could perhaps mean just a piece of land somewhere...
What else would it mean?

Edit: See how weak willed I am? Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

Edit: It's your fkkin fault...

Quit giving me such easy targets... Thanks.
  

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Article V should be amended to remove the provision that proposed amendments may be ratified by "...the legislatures of three fourths of the several States...", making ratification of amendments possible only by Conventions in three fourths of the States.

The provision that Congress may propose other modes of ratification should also be removed, unless it is made clear the the People must approve any other mode of ratification proposed by Congress, which would be in fact a proposed change to the Constitution itself.
  

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Re: How should USA (United States of America) Constitution be amended?
Reply #4 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 11:31am
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It is a mess, so we would be better off just replacing it with another one.

If we are going to just amend it, I would say to make property rights a part of the bill of rights, with any exceptions spelled out.

  
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Reply #5 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 11:33am
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The Second Amendment is the most misconstrued and misunderstood amendment there is.

Even Supreme Court justices argue about the meaning of it!  Some say it DOES acknowledge the right of the People to buy,own, and use a gun, but some say the People can only possess/use a gun as part of a militia.

Here's Amendment II in its present form:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The commas are misplaced, and completely change the meaning.  It's unclear, vague, and ambiguous.  It's a mess.

My proposed and clarified Gun Rights amendment:

Each individual's Right to buy, sell, transfer, possess, and carry firearms and ammunition shall not be infringed IN ANY WAY.

Any Lawmaker who proposes infringements on this Right shall be tried, found guilty of Treason, and executed by firing squad on the steps of the Capitol building within twenty four (24) hours of conviction.


Even the Supreme Court could understand this.

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” - Thomas Jefferson
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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A well regulated Militia
(one Militia?) Quote:
of a free State
(only one state may be free, would that be Washington D.C., or would that "one State" be the USA remember Secretary of State? ) Quote:
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms


You'll notice "people" (the voters) isn't spelled as "People" (the elected leaders, that are "We the People" , that form the Constitution, see Preamble) .  You'll also notice "A" in "Arms" is an uppercase letter, so the people (the voters) get to keep and bear weapons equivalent to conventional USA Armed Forces conventional weapons.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights

Amendment II could perhaps say: "Every free State's Militia shall be well regulated to provide necessary security to respectively every free State that respective said Militia is of respective said free State, and the right of every hubeing, that is of responsible willpower and of responsible mindset and of responsible skill of using Arm(s) , to keep and bear said Arm(s), shall never be infringed.
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 6:55pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:


(the elected leaders, that are "We the People"...
That's an extraordinarily irrational idea.
  

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AlayneLeung wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:

Amendment II could perhaps say: "Every free State's Militia shall be well regulated to provide necessary security to respectively every free State that respective said Militia is of respective said free State, and the right of every hubeing, that is of responsible willpower and of responsible mindset and of responsible skill of using Arm(s) , to keep and bear said Arm(s), shall never be infringed.
That means you and I will be allowed to have guns, but almost nobody else... Is that your goal?
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 12:05pm
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There's another part of the Constitution that needs to be amended and repealed:

Amendment XVI

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

The first 5 words are the Huge warning flag which tells us this is a bad amendment;

The Congress shall have POWER

ANY Amendment which gives power to the State TAKES power from the People.

There is no need for Constitutional law which shift power from the People to the government.  NONE.

The 16th Amendment should be repealed ASAP, and let the People keep the fruits of our labor.

And let corporations keep their profits to re-invest and/or distribute dividends to stockholders as they see fit.

This will have many beneficial effects;

• Everyone has more money to buy stuff.  This stimulates the economy.

• Businesses can grow.  Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.

• Government will be forced to downsize considerably.   Smaller gov't = more liberty.

• Military will need to be scaled back.

• Deficit Spending will need to be kept in check.

• US Military will need to withdraw from foreign civil wars. 

the list goes on and on. . .

"If we end all taxpayer-subsidized involvement in foreign civil wars, we will no longer have self-created threats to American soil, and you will get to keep more of the money you earn."  - Arvin Vohra
  

Governments will always devise ways to deprive an honest man of his money or property, and claim that it's legal.
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